Intensecure
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Looks like Spinfits aren't included as standard on the Master or Icarus now... no longer mentioned on the description pages.
No spinfits, I spoke with Bob and he said they were out of stock but he would send some when they received more.
No spinfits, I spoke with Bob and he said they were out of stock but he would send some when they received more.
I'm not concerned about the dropout issues, but just letting you know, people that ordered on KS don't have that option.
No spinfits, I spoke with Bob and he said they were out of stock but he would send some when they received more.
Understood, but they are still featured on the PM6 and Hunter pages, removed from Vyrus, Icarus and Master. Just wonder going forward if, along with the removal of the balanced cable, these are things that you only going to get if you ask?
Hunter has the titanium Dynamic Driver, has an "acoustic chamber" with the titanium alloy and has a premium cable.
PM6 has a standard dual coil dynamic driver, standard cable and zinc alloy shell.
Does that mean if ever I got ones with kombi tips, I can ask for my spinfits?
So, I got a good deal on the phantom hunters, so I didn't have to pay much more than the PM6 on trinity's website. But what I want to know is what technically makes the earphones I got, the phantom hunters, better than the PM6. When I look at the website, it appears that they have the same amount of balanced armature drivers. There's only very brief technical details, and I'm not knowledgeable enough to know what it is supposed to mean, or if it really can tell me anything.
What I am basically basing my faith on, is 1: that trinity is the best audio company I know. Their trinity atlas earphone is sublime
2: They say themselves that this is the best they can do.
So the phantom hunter has the same amount of drivers as the campfire audio earphone in the same price range (the Jupiter is 100 dollars more, but the lyra ii is around the same price). But then so does the PM6. I assume the amount of drivers only makes a partial difference, and I know that the armature drivers break up the sound into individual frequencies for every driver. What I don't know is where the other portion of that difference lies, and for what scientific reason in these earphones.
That said, I must admit that I am stoked with anticipation for the phantom hunters to arrive. I seized the opportunity to order one months after they went out of stock, from the audio sanctuary website. I talked with jake to confirm that I would indeed be getting them even when I ordered them from audio sanctuary, and he confirmed it. The heat treated titanium looks so beautiful.
Also. It is curious that there is no mention of the bass response on the phantom hunter's information. I am curious to know about this as well.
Actually, the Hunter also uses the dual-coil dynamic driver, which the PM6 got 2 of when it went through its revision. The breakdown goes like this:
- Hunter has a single dual-coil dynamic driver, 2 dual-BAs (so 4 BAs), an acoustic vectoring chamber (exclusive to the Hunter), premium cables (like 2 or 3?), and a titanium shell (it's not just the finish, the shell is actually made of titanium)
- PM6 has 2 dual-coil dynamic drivers, 2 dual-BAs (so 4 BAs), no acoustic vectoring chamber, a premium cable (I think?), and a zinc-alloy shell (the site description is wrong about this, it says stainless steel, which Bob said they tested and found to be too heavy)
I've got my Vyrus V2 in hand now, delivered today. Fantastically built and incredibly well-presented packaging. To perhaps make at least some people jealous, mine came with Spinfits . I did a quick run-through of the filters and here's my brief (and probably somewhat wrong) summary:
- black, green, blue, gold (both varieties): fairly similar with slight variations in bass and treble presentation, each offsetting to create a different mid feel as well. I lumped these together because they sounded similar enough where I wouldn't care which was which. They do definitely each have their own sound though so don't confuse my explanation as saying they're all the same; they are not. They're mostly v-shaped with a good balance of detail and not overdoing the v-shape.
- orange, gunmetal, purple (both varieties): treble-oriented and neutral filters. Orange was actually the most treble-oriented one and had the least bass presence, gunmetal filters right behind it. I'd call the gunmetal the neutral one. Of these, the purple damped was the most enjoyable for me. Still treble-emphasized, I'd say, compared to all the others, but with a slight elevation in bass compared to neutral.
- red, silver (both varieties): these are what I call the "fun" filters. Enhanced bass and exactly what I was planning on using the Vyrus for. The silvers both have a tad bit more bass than the red, but the main difference is in how the treble and mids react. The silver damped sounds like it has smoothed and tone-down mids and treble compared to the silver undamped. The red is quite lively but it's quite good in that regard. I have a tough time choosing between the silver undamped and the red filter. I may stick with the red more often than not as it feels to me like it has a slightly better control on bass and its liveliness brings out a little bit more detail than either of the silver filters.
I hope the above might help some people move in the direction they're looking for. All testing was done straight out of my iPod Touch 5g and using the stock silicone tips. As should always be noted, all of my above impressions come with the tag of YMMV
Conclusion: will likely go with the reds for most of my Vyrus listening. I'm liking these filters a good amount. They may end up being what I use for the Air as well since the Air is supposed to pretty much be this. These are very good for the money especially if you use some of those more neutral or only slightly v-shaped filters. And to think I spent only a slight bit over $30. Impressive indeed.
wednesday beforeThey said that two days ago or the wednesday before?