TRINITY - PHANTOM Series - New thread + WORLDS FIRST PUSH PULL HYBRID IEM!*
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What is/are the benefits of 2pins instead of 1?
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There may be some variance then - because this is how I measured my pair yesterday:
Want me to send my yellows to u? ^^
If u see one of my first comments when i got the Atlas was something like "i would like something between the yellow and the purple", so from the 1st moment they were drumming my ears. In theory they shouldnt but i couldnt keep them on for more then 1 or 2 songs.
If my girl doesnt mind ill get her to try and compare the bass/sub-bass to see if she feels the same way, if she doesnt i have no more ideas.
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No its OK - like I said, there may be some variation. It happens. I have some filters from the prototypes with me where the gunmetal measure the same as the red. Not sure if they were just put in wrong batch when they were colour-coated, or if it was a manufacturing defect. But the graph is how they are supposed to look. If you aren't sure - then maybe send an email to Bob, and he might be able to send another set of filters out.
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I dont want to be more trouble he already had to ship me a deffective cable and S tips eheh, i dont really mind, but now im curious to my girls reaction to them, on the weekend ill keep u posted.
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I appreciate the thought, but your a customer so if something isnt right its our job to put it right, so if needed give me a shout and i will send another pair of filters.
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EDIT: This post is a non-sequitur reply to an earlier post from this thread, sorry about the confusion...
Sooo... about that Dash. *sigh*
The following is clearly skewed negative because I'm frustrated, but I should preface this by saying that I did enjoy using them over the weekend during some tasks that are non-cord-friendly, and I loved it. Highly recommended for bathing dogs and doing yardwork
This is a super cool piece of tech, but it's currently an infant product. VERY early with only a few spots of polish. Poor/missing implementation is everywhere. The software is many generations away from being mainstream-ready, IMO. Only a small percentage of the advertised features are currently implemented, with no roadmap that I have seen. The software/firmware update process is a nightmare and begging for user error (download update file, manually copy file to Dash, unplug dash from power (What) and then, while on battery-power, wait two-three hours with no way to observe update progress. I actually updated my set this morning and a few hours later the update was pulled from the site... Apparently they uploaded a developer build to the release site. Yay for me. Instructions for downgrading are nowhere to be found. I could nitpick a bunch more but these points should be enough to give you an idea.
On the hardware side, The touch sensors are tiny and have a pin-sized sweet spot. Bragi decided to include 4 tips/sleeves (XS = a tip, S,M,L = Sleeves). Unfortunately the sleeves only affect the size/mass of the device in relation to how it locks into the conch of the ear... all sleeves have an extra-tiny permanently molded soft silicone tip attached. I can find no way to get a proper seal with them. The sleeves' tips are non-replaceable without cutting the sleeves. Also: the non-standard length of the nozzle tip is too short to mount standard tips onto the Dash without cutting the tips to fit... using the tips with stock barrel-length causes the entire dash to hang out of my ear.
I want to like these so badly... but I'm mostly disappointed. After getting a proper seal with Sony Kombi tips I can sadly say that the sound quality is very "meh". The feels hollow, like I'm listening to music from my phone speaker... mids are present but highs and lows are out to lunch. That single BA is probably just crammed in there willy-nilly due to the limited available space. The Hyperions have significantly better musicality, even with a proper seal on the Dash that involved butchering some spare tips.
This little thing is clearly a fitness device that happens to play music... The design is pretty, the functionality is promising, and its a very versatile little device. If you value sound quality you will suffer with these, high-level potato sound. I purposely didn't use any other listening devices since Friday... so I've had no reference to good quality audio since last week. I switched mid-song from the Dash to the Atlas today and actually got goosebumps.
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Am i the only one who didnt understand this post? Need context ^^.
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Sooo... about that Dash. *sigh*
The following is clearly skewed negative because I'm frustrated, but I should preface this by saying that I did enjoy using them over the weekend during some tasks that are non-cord-friendly, and I loved it. Highly recommended for bathing dogs and doing yardwork
This is a super cool piece of tech, but it's currently an infant product. VERY early with only a few spots of polish. Poor/missing implementation is everywhere. The software is many generations away from being mainstream-ready, IMO. Only a small percentage of the advertised features are currently implemented, with no roadmap that I have seen. The software/firmware update process is a nightmare and begging for user error (download update file, manually copy file to Dash, unplug dash from power (What) and then, while on battery-power, wait two-three hours with no way to observe update progress. I actually updated my set this morning and a few hours later the update was pulled from the site... Apparently they uploaded a developer build to the release site. Yay for me. Instructions for downgrading are nowhere to be found. I could nitpick a bunch more but these points should be enough to give you an idea.
On the hardware side, The touch sensors are tiny and have a pin-sized sweet spot. Bragi decided to include 4 tips/sleeves (XS = a tip, S,M,L = Sleeves). Unfortunately the sleeves only affect the size/mass of the device in relation to how it locks into the conch of the ear... all sleeves have an extra-tiny permanently molded soft silicone tip attached. I can find no way to get a proper seal with them. The sleeves' tips are non-replaceable without cutting the sleeves. Also: the non-standard length of the nozzle tip is too short to mount standard tips onto the Dash without cutting the tips to fit... using the tips with stock barrel-length causes the entire dash to hang out of my ear.
I want to like these so badly... but I'm mostly disappointed. After getting a proper seal with Sony Kombi tips I can sadly say that the sound quality is very "meh". The feels hollow, like I'm listening to music from my phone speaker... mids are present but highs and lows are out to lunch. That single BA is probably just crammed in there willy-nilly due to the limited available space. The Hyperions have significantly better musicality, even with a proper seal on the Dash that involved butchering some spare tips.
This little thing is clearly a fitness device that happens to play music... The design is pretty, the functionality is promising, and its a very versatile little device. If you value sound quality you will suffer with these, high-level potato sound. I purposely didn't use any other listening devices since Friday... so I've had no reference to good quality audio since last week. I switched mid-song from the Dash to the Atlas today and actually got goosebumps.
This is a very confusing post. I finally figured out you are not referring to a trinity iem. Why would you post this on the Phantom thread? Definitely not the right place.
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Sorry about that guys, I've edited my post for clarity...
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Thanks for the info. Yeah. It sucks that they couldn't polish it up. On the upside, this makes the Trinity Phantom Air all that much more exciting.
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Sooo... about that Dash. *sigh*
The following is clearly skewed negative because I'm frustrated, but I should preface this by saying that I did enjoy using them over the weekend during some tasks that are non-cord-friendly, and I loved it. Highly recommended for bathing dogs and doing yardwork
This is a super cool piece of tech, but it's currently an infant product. VERY early with only a few spots of polish. Poor/missing implementation is everywhere. The software is many generations away from being mainstream-ready, IMO. Only a small percentage of the advertised features are currently implemented, with no roadmap that I have seen. The software/firmware update process is a nightmare and begging for user error (download update file, manually copy file to Dash, unplug dash from power (What) and then, while on battery-power, wait two-three hours with no way to observe update progress. I actually updated my set this morning and a few hours later the update was pulled from the site... Apparently they uploaded a developer build to the release site. Yay for me. Instructions for downgrading are nowhere to be found. I could nitpick a bunch more but these points should be enough to give you an idea.
On the hardware side, The touch sensors are tiny and have a pin-sized sweet spot. Bragi decided to include 4 tips/sleeves (XS = a tip, S,M,L = Sleeves). Unfortunately the sleeves only affect the size/mass of the device in relation to how it locks into the conch of the ear... all sleeves have an extra-tiny permanently molded soft silicone tip attached. I can find no way to get a proper seal with them. The sleeves' tips are non-replaceable without cutting the sleeves. Also: the non-standard length of the nozzle tip is too short to mount standard tips onto the Dash without cutting the tips to fit... using the tips with stock barrel-length causes the entire dash to hang out of my ear.
I want to like these so badly... but I'm mostly disappointed. After getting a proper seal with Sony Kombi tips I can sadly say that the sound quality is very "meh". The feels hollow, like I'm listening to music from my phone speaker... mids are present but highs and lows are out to lunch. That single BA is probably just crammed in there willy-nilly due to the limited available space. The Hyperions have significantly better musicality, even with a proper seal on the Dash that involved butchering some spare tips.
This little thing is clearly a fitness device that happens to play music... The design is pretty, the functionality is promising, and its a very versatile little device. If you value sound quality you will suffer with these, high-level potato sound. I purposely didn't use any other listening devices since Friday... so I've had no reference to good quality audio since last week. I switched mid-song from the Dash to the Atlas today and actually got goosebumps.
This is a very confusing post. I finally figured out you are not referring to a trinity iem. Why would you post this on the Phantom thread? Definitely not the right place.
@Neotribal has the wireless dash and as we are bringing our own wireless iem out , the Phantom Air, he was giving some feedback on that wireless device.
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Right, so... all said and done, as it stands today: I have the Dash, but I want the Phantom Air.
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