[WitzyZed]

Hello, I thought I'd come check this thread out upon @buonassi 's suggestion.

I only have one trusty pair of IEMs, FiiO's F9 Pro. I haven't been inclined to use the AutoEQ settings for this set. Either I haven't let my brain adjust to the (harman curve's) changes or I just prefer how it sounds as is.

As can be seen from the deviation from harman target here:

the most significant deviations/adjustments come after 6-7K.

From reading this post I understand you have reservations about making any promises about EQ filters matching your target past 5K.

Would you be able to try making an EQ filter for these earphones? Or since I'm most happy (compared to Harman Curve) with no EQ, is it a waste of time ?

In any case, cheers!

 

[toranku]

Hello, I thought I'd come check this thread out upon @buonassi 's suggestion.

I only have one trusty pair of IEMs, FiiO's F9 Pro. I haven't been inclined to use the AutoEQ settings for this set. Either I haven't let my brain adjust to the (harman curve's) changes or I just prefer how it sounds as is.

As can be seen from the deviation from harman target here:

the most significant deviations/adjustments come after 6-7K.

From reading this post I understand you have reservations about making any promises about EQ filters matching your target past 5K.

Would you be able to try making an EQ filter for these earphones? Or since I'm most happy (compared to Harman Curve) with no EQ, is it a waste of time ?

In any case, cheers!

Thanks for stopping by. I've uploaded the EQ filters of the F9 Pro into the google drive database. Play around with the 10khz band though, since the F9 Pro does have driver resonance occurring in the region. Go with what sounds best.

 

[buonassi]

@WitzyZed - the reason you shouldn't use graphs to adjust peaks/nulls past 5khz is due to resonances. There's not a good way to know which of the peaks are caused by inherent driver resonances and which are caused by your ear canals.

The volume of air in your occluded ear canal is likely NOT the same as the volume of air in the measurement coupler. IOW, Those peaks/nulls you see at 6 and 8khz on a graph may end up affecting you at 5.5 and 7khz (just an example). This is not only due to your unique ear anatomy, but also the tips you choose to use and how deeply you like to insert them.

Generally I find that ear canal resonances only occur above 3-4k with me. For this reason, I equalize third octave points starting with 3150hz by ear. It's not hard to do and I can say with confidence the technique can improve all the IEMs and Phones in your collection to better match the way you perceive sound.

Using a highly transparent EQ like Neutron in 64 bit mode ensures these EQ filters don't affect overall 'quality'. Yes, there will be some phase skew with standard min phase EQ filters. But I believe that linearizing the frequency amplitudes are the lesser evil than the slight phase shifts the filters cause. This is especially true of high frequencies and less severe gain/Q value corrections.

I keep meaning to publish a tutorial outlining how to EQ by ear for third octave high frequencies. When I do, I'll be sure and link to that post so others can benefit.

PS - I hope you've been well. I haven't seen you since our meetup at F1 Audio. PM if you need anything my man.

 

[dhruvmeena96]

I'm sorry I've always thought you and Crinacle are the same person! Glad to see more contents from you two!

Its a conspiracy
Believe me

They are same

Hahahahaha

 

[toranku]

Added to EQ filter database:

Audiosense T800
Campfire Atlas
Empire Ears Wraith
Final B3
Tin Hifi T2
Tin Hifi T4

 

[Blackwoof]

I agree with the ER2 impressions, The ER2SE is a gem for $160 and more so with some EQ. It does above 10k much better than the ER4/ER3 do.

Some say that the grain in the ER3/4 is texture and is what defines resolution. Yada yada. For me, the ER2 is able to reproduce transients as clean, if not cleaner than the ER4

Or the BA driver is hitting a wall, The DD in the ER2 can go further in much cleaner fashion.

 

[newtophones07]

Quick question, the posted EQ filters for various IEMs, assume a parametric EQ and PEAK value. These work great in Neutron, but I wanted to see the difference using UAPP and the Toneboosters EQ. Using toneboosters in UAPP, the options are analog bell, high shelf, high cut, low cut gain, high cut gain, badnpass, notch, low shelf, digital bell, high shelf, low cut and high cut. Which one of these is equivalent to PEAK?

Thanks

 

[CANiSLAYu]

Quick question, the posted EQ filters for various IEMs, assume a parametric EQ and PEAK value. These work great in Neutron, but I wanted to see the difference using UAPP and the Toneboosters EQ. Using toneboosters in UAPP, the options are analog bell, high shelf, high cut, low cut gain, high cut gain, badnpass, notch, low shelf, digital bell, high shelf, low cut and high cut. Which one of these is equivalent to PEAK?

Thanks

Analog bell.

 

[newtophones07]

Analog bell.

Thanks!

 

[NovaDev]

Tork EQ for Blessing 2 makes it S+ tonality level.
(Don't @ me though)

 

[NovaDev]

If someone wanna try out his EQ on MacOS, I suggest checking out https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq#osx for PEQ on Mac.

If you go with AUNBandEq then you may need a calculator to convert between Q-factor and Width, which can be found here http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-bandwidth.htm.

Example: Tork's Moondrop Blessing 2 EQ

 

[toranku]

Some spicy content I posted on the Audio Discourse youtube channel earlier.

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Non-satirical, serious opinions on the current state of brands. To qualify, I have to had hear 2 IEMs from a brand and must also be confident enough to talk about them. Enjoy & let me know what you think

 

[Blackwoof]

Or the BA driver is hitting a wall, The DD in the ER2 can go further in much cleaner fashion.

On 2nd thought Res is quite subjective on more listening, Since the ER3/ER4 res shines on electro/metal and it speed too. Oddly when EQ'd with a 6KHz high shelf of 4db the 3SE = 4SR treble wise, With a 125Hz low shelf of 4 db the ER3/ER4 sounds full/meaty on music with strong bass energy but with the tightness & effortless from the BAs speed.

Aka both the ER2SE & ER3/ER4 are good but with differing timbres/quirks, I think i like the BAs sharpness more which I've yet to hear in a DD IEM do?.

 

[soundperfection]

When is toranku making a toplist

 

[toranku]

Brand Overview: Moondrop

One of my favourite brands right now. Highly consistent, knows what they're doing with tuning and also very "safe". They've come a long way and I am nothing but excited to see what they put out in the future.

Kanas Pro (KPE)
July 27 2019
Smooth, easily palatable signature. I do think the overall signature is inoffensive whilst remaining generally clear. Has a slight uppermidrange boost with a bass boost to ccompensate. As such the overall sound is a bit thick and bodied. Treble is a tad dark for me with just enough cymbal presence. However the Kanas Pro is a tad bloated with its bass response, with its bass being a little flabby. Driver sounds slow. If not technicalities are decent enough, sporting nice separation between instruments.

Blessing 2
22 June 2020
Refer to review.

S8
15 December 2019
The Solution 8. Solution to A8''s bloated bass..it's finally here.

I'd describe the S8's tone as being slightly skewed towards the upper frequencies (2000hz and above) and has a very airy tone. Due to this skew, uppermids can sound a bit shrill. Female vocals take on a clean, lean and airy tone BUT are a bit too lean and perhaps shrill if you will. The same goes for male vocals as they can lack a bit of that body (and warmth) at times. I feel like the treble is the highlight, sporting excellent extension (like the OH10). It has so much air to the point that it can sound a bit unnatural compared to speakers. However there still exists a small spike somewhere with the upper treble which may or may not be addressed with tips (I'll need to try more/different tips to find out). This spike is at some times sibilant with certain tracks.

Bass is improved with the S8 compared to the A8. My main gripe with the A8 was the bloated bass is now addressed. I do wish for more texture with S8's bass and it is in no way bassy. S8 also has very strong technical ability with its excellent staging dimensions and separation/layering. If this was offered in a CIEM I wonder if it can address the issues I find with it.

Great IEM overall.