Toranku's Thoughts and Reviews (and target EQ filters!)

Apr 29, 2019 at 1:43 AM Post #346 of 1,546
Do you think, like some other hybrids with the new tweeters, they might need a lot of power to sound decent? I heard it was the case for the Pola.

Khan uses a different tweeter from the electrostatic hybrids (piezoelectric vs Sonion electrostatic), and I didn’t feel it was power hungry.

I thought that the Pola was a failure no matter what I tried, which is a shame, because I was definitely a fan of its price and design.
 
Apr 29, 2019 at 2:53 AM Post #347 of 1,546
Khan uses a different tweeter from the electrostatic hybrids (piezoelectric vs Sonion electrostatic), and I didn’t feel it was power hungry.

I thought that the Pola was a failure no matter what I tried, which is a shame, because I was definitely a fan of its price and design.
OH really, why failure? Didn't try.
 
Apr 29, 2019 at 3:53 AM Post #348 of 1,546
new Campfire IO & Fearless HyperS12 :sweat_smile:

When they drop....
Do you think, like some other hybrids with the new tweeters, they might need a lot of power to sound decent? I heard it was the case for the Pola.

Not really. Anyway if I have to use a bigger amp for them, they're not portable anymore. Defeats the purpose. DAP straight to IEM makes life mobile and easy. Pola v1 was terrible with or without an external amp. V2 I only had 5 mins. Better but nothing memorable from my short time w it

Any love for Vision Ears VE6X1?

Maybe, trying to focus on new stuff.
 
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Apr 29, 2019 at 9:04 PM Post #351 of 1,546
Apr 29, 2019 at 11:37 PM Post #352 of 1,546
Any thoughts on oriolus percivali?

Haven't tried it yet. Unless they are pushing it like the regular fischi, forsteni & oriolus mk2, its hard to test. Like the Mellianus. Wasn't too thrilled with the mellianus...

Toranku was just wondering if you could compare the qdc 4ss to the Andromeda?

Can't AB them next to each other. But going off my memory: Andro takes on an overall brighter tonal balance with less impactful bass so it can seem "softer". 4ss is warmer. Both are equally as well extended at the top end with perhaps Andro having a slight edge. I do think that 4ss has better vocals and a more likable tone overall. Technicalities wise, andro edges it out as well, but both are in the comfortable realm of "good enough" technicalities. Andro sounds more open so I think people would enjoy the way it does imaging/positional cues better.
 
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Apr 30, 2019 at 12:30 AM Post #353 of 1,546
@toranku ,
Regarding the Fearless S10, is there any chance that you might have got them with polarity reversed? One of the head-fiers mentioned his experience with his new S10 in the fearless thread here. (where after reversing the cable, he reported significant improvement)

Would be interesting to know if there is a problem with the initial batches of Fearless S10. (as has happened with IMR R1 Zenith in the past)
 
Apr 30, 2019 at 12:50 AM Post #354 of 1,546
Haven't tried it yet. Unless they are pushing it like the



Can't AB them next to each other. But going off my memory: Andro takes on an overall brighter tonal balance with less impactful bass so it can seem "softer". 4ss is warmer. Both are equally as well extended at the top end with perhaps Andro having a slight edge. I do think that 4ss has better vocals and a more likable tone overall. Technicalities wise, andro edges it out as well, but both are in the comfortable realm of "good enough" technicalities. Andro sounds more open so I think people would enjoy the way it does imaging/positional cues better.

I see. Thanks for the detailed comparison.
 
Apr 30, 2019 at 1:12 AM Post #355 of 1,546
@toranku ,
Regarding the Fearless S10, is there any chance that you might have got them with polarity reversed? One of the head-fiers mentioned his experience with his new S10 in the fearless thread here. (where after reversing the cable, he reported significant improvement)

Would be interesting to know if there is a problem with the initial batches of Fearless S10. (as has happened with IMR R1 Zenith in the past)

I doubt that the demo set had its polarity reversed but I guess I'll try it again. Something in reverse would sound totally off with the positional cues.
 
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Apr 30, 2019 at 4:21 AM Post #356 of 1,546
This is probably the best, most informative IEM impressions thread I have read anywhere on the Internet. You have a great taste in tuning, a high expectation for everything that goes into your ears, and you know exactly how FR relates to SQ. (e.g. you pointed out the honkiness you heard in PP8 was due to excessive 1-2k. Extremely on point!)

I am so happy to find this thread. Big thank you and look forward to more.

As I personally believe that we look for similar qualities in an IEM (an IEM equivalent of the Hifiman Susvara? lol), I shall advice you to give JH Lola another try. Though I personally don't own a pair, Lola IMO is currently the closest thing to perfection. The incoherency you mentioned was somewhat of a design flaw: when the bass is turned all the way down, the 2 bass drivers simply turn off. Therefore, as you mentioned, anything below 75% bass sounds weird and incoherent. But once the bass is turned at or above 75% to match the meaty lower-mids, Lola is simply stunning, though I'd admit that this might be too much bass for some.

VE 8 and VE Erlkonig to me are also near perfect. I look forward to your impressions.
Oh and since you mentioned somewhere in the thread that you are looking for a studio monitor type of sound, you may also want to check out UE18+pro. Incredibly linear sound. Too little emotion to my liking though.
 
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May 1, 2019 at 9:30 PM Post #357 of 1,546
Yep, I concur with the sentiments expressed above there. This thread has been enormously helpful. Thank you so much for your time and effort to record your thoughts so carefully and sharing them here. I feel like I can trust your comments a lot more than some reviews where the only criticism is the choice of latches on the carrying case.

After several years away from HeadFi and gleefully listening to speakers almost exclusively, a new job with an open office and extended commute pulled me back into the Game of Phones. I have spent the past several months haunting e-earphone and Yodobashi Camera. This thread and the Ranking List have really helped target some great earphones.

Just a few side notes to contribute…

1. My experience with the Solaris was similar to yours. I thought I was going to be quickly done with this process when I tried the demo model at e-earphone early on in the hunt. I purchased a second-hand pair, but my experience at home was a bit different than at the store. There was so much to like but the bass extension seemed lacking and some peaky brightness made move on from them. I always feel like I have to live with a pair of phones before I can really get a feel for them, but treble peaks in a demo usually get me to go to another model. I am wondering if there are indeed some sample differences or if my brain just settled in and didn’t care for the final result.

2. The JVC HW10000 don’t move me either. The imaging and sound stage are fantastic and they definitely caught my attention as something special when I first tried them. But the more time I spent time with them, the more I noticed an uneven treble response, an underwhelming bass, and the more they just sounded mid-tier. They do have some serious fans though. As always, YMMV.

3. Boy oh boy, qdc has a superb line-up. I would not really have paid attention to them without this thread and I am so glad I did. I am concerned I will have to deal with the forwardness of the treble in the long run, but the VX were absolutely mesmerizing and I now am waiting on a pair I bought from eBay.

I am hoping to settle on just one pair in the end, but man, I feel like a Berenstain bear trying to buy a new hat. (Spoiler Alert) He is at least able to walk out happily with his old hat. I was content with the Dorados or 335DWs for the odd occasion I wanted to listen to earphones, but now I have heard so many amazing individual aspects that I feel like I can’t settle until I find that unicorn pair that includes them all. Le sigh.

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I hope this wasn’t a thread highjack. It all seemed to fit. Again, thank you for all the great work. I do hope you can keep it up!

:beerchug:
 
May 1, 2019 at 9:35 PM Post #358 of 1,546
Yep, I concur with the sentiments expressed above there. This thread has been enormously helpful. Thank you so much for your time and effort to record your thoughts so carefully and sharing them here. I feel like I can trust your comments a lot more than some reviews where the only criticism is the choice of latches on the carrying case.

After several years away from HeadFi and gleefully listening to speakers almost exclusively, a new job with an open office and extended commute pulled me back into the Game of Phones. I have spent the past several months haunting e-earphone and Yodobashi Camera. This thread and the Ranking List have really helped target some great earphones.

Just a few side notes to contribute…

1. My experience with the Solaris was similar to yours. I thought I was going to be quickly done with this process when I tried the demo model at e-earphone early on in the hunt. I purchased a second-hand pair, but my experience at home was a bit different than at the store. There was so much to like but the bass extension seemed lacking and some peaky brightness made move on from them. I always feel like I have to live with a pair of phones before I can really get a feel for them, but treble peaks in a demo usually get me to go to another model. I am wondering if there are indeed some sample differences or if my brain just settled in and didn’t care for the final result.

2. The JVC HW10000 don’t move me either. The imaging and sound stage are fantastic and they definitely caught my attention as something special when I first tried them. But the more time I spent time with them, the more I noticed an uneven treble response, an underwhelming bass, and the more they just sounded mid-tier. They do have some serious fans though. As always, YMMV.

3. Boy oh boy, qdc has a superb line-up. I would not really have paid attention to them without this thread and I am so glad I did. I am concerned I will have to deal with the forwardness of the treble in the long run, but the VX were absolutely mesmerizing and I now am waiting on a pair I bought from eBay.

I am hoping to settle on just one pair in the end, but man, I feel like a Berenstain bear trying to buy a new hat. (Spoiler Alert) He is at least able to walk out happily with his old hat. I was content with the Dorados or 335DWs for the odd occasion I wanted to listen to earphones, but now I have heard so many amazing individual aspects that I feel like I can’t settle until I find that unicorn pair that includes them all. Le sigh.



I hope this wasn’t a thread highjack. It all seemed to fit. Again, thank you for all the great work. I do hope you can keep it up!

:beerchug:
What DAP are you using?
 
May 1, 2019 at 10:04 PM Post #359 of 1,546
3. Boy oh boy, qdc has a superb line-up. I would not really have paid attention to them without this thread and I am so glad I did. I am concerned I will have to deal with the forwardness of the treble in the long run, but the VX were absolutely mesmerizing and I now am waiting on a pair I bought from eBay.

QDC and UM are underrated af.

IMO QDC VX, PP8 and UE18+pro are quite end-game among the reference/neutral type of IEMs. Not my cup of tea as I need a lot more bass than what they offer. If you ever look for a bit more emotion, check out UM Mentor (more subbass) and VE6 (more midbass).
 
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