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Headphoneus Supremus
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OP: Uh, OK.
Originally Posted by karthur /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yes and that is EXACTLY what is great about having a variety of headphones to listen to. What exactly are you trying to reprodudce? Live bands are "coloured" by the type of mics/PA system/amps/mixing/etc/etc they use. EVERYTHING is coloured. The only arguably natural state would be completely acoustic (unamped) but even that is "coloured" by the particular instrument and environment! |
Originally Posted by BHTX /img/forum/go_quote.gif Upon using a combination of pink noise and a software based sinewave generator.. . They're ALL extremely "colored". Enjoy yourselves. I give up. |
Originally Posted by miscreant /img/forum/go_quote.gif DACs are colored cables are colored amps are colored headphones are colored : mics are coloured cables again are coloured mic-preamps are coloured ADCs are coloured and your ears are colored the most... and your brain is a darn rainbow |
Originally Posted by miscreant /img/forum/go_quote.gif DACs are colored cables are colored amps are colored headphones are colored : mics are colored cables again are colored mic-preamps are colored ADCs are colored and your ears are colored the most... and your brain is a darn rainbow |
Originally Posted by donunus /img/forum/go_quote.gif Arent many of us trying to find uncolored sound? |
Originally Posted by donunus /img/forum/go_quote.gif I myself am hoping the hd800s can deliver that |
Originally Posted by mbd2884 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I wonder if he even listens to music or understand music isn't about perfection but the message, emotion or just an idea the artist is trying to convey. So for me, I see no reason why this perfection and accuracy is even pertinent to me enjoying my music. That and I certainly can't hear these peaks and what nots. And obvious to me the OP couldn't either without using software to analyze the pink noise. Good for the OP, he can decipher pink noise with his EQ software. |
Originally Posted by userlander /img/forum/go_quote.gif If the artist is trying to convey some particular message, emotion or idea, but the headphones aren't neutral and represent the sound differently than the artist intended, you might end up *not* hearing the message the artist is trying to convey at all. I can see this happening especially with classical music, but theoretically at least it could happen with all music. So the headphones are then actually interfering with your goal, and presumably with the artist's goal, too. That's why some people consider neutrality to be so important: so you can get an accurate representation of the music that's as close as possible to what was intended, and not some colored version of it that is relatively farther away from what the artist wanted you to hear. I can't speak for the OP, but these "peaks and what nots" you mention are *very* obvious to a lot of people from phone to phone, or even from speaker to speaker. I doubt he needed the measuring gear to hear the variations. On the contrary, he probably heard them very clearly, like I assumed most of us do, and that's why he used the gear, to try to quantify what he was hearing. >> edit: Btw, the attempt in this thread to "diagnose" the OP with some psychiatric disorder (which I hope is just a joke) is ridiculous and imo inappropriate. That kind of post is not useful or productive, imho. |
Originally Posted by miscreant /img/forum/go_quote.gif imagine how colored is the sound in live performances... yuck! all that room reflection, resonances.. it just drives me NUTS! wanna be a cubic in a cubic world... no sounds for me please. thanks, OP, for the those wise words. |
Originally Posted by userlander What you say is kind of contradictory, though. Because if the artist is trying to convey some particular message, emotion or idea, but the headphones aren't neutral and represent the sound differently than the artist intended, you might end up *not* hearing the message the artist is trying to convey at all. I can see this happening especially with classical music, but theoretically at least it could happen with all music. So the headphones are then actually interfering with your goal, and presumably with the artist's goal, too. That's why some people consider neutrality to be so important: so you can get an accurate representation of the music that's as close as possible to what was intended, and not some colored version of it that is relatively farther away from what the artist wanted you to hear. I can't speak for the OP, but these "peaks and what nots" you mention are *very* obvious to a lot of people from phone to phone, or even from speaker to speaker. I doubt he needed the measuring gear to hear the variations. On the contrary, he probably heard them very clearly, like I assumed most of us do, and that's why he used the gear, to try to quantify what he was hearing. |
Originally Posted by userlander /img/forum/go_quote.gif What you say is kind of contradictory, though. Because if the artist is trying to convey some particular message, emotion or idea, but the headphones aren't neutral and represent the sound differently than the artist intended, you might end up *not* hearing the message the artist is trying to convey at all. I can see this happening especially with classical music, but theoretically at least it could happen with all music. So the headphones are then actually interfering with your goal, and presumably with the artist's goal, too. |