The Xonar Essence STX Q/A, tweaking, impressions thread
Feb 12, 2010 at 11:29 PM Post #1,456 of 5,722
Really? According most the members here the card is great. I find no source will please everybody and it depends on what else your using for gear.
I can quote the multiple pages of gushing praise you wrote on this card.
Here allow me:
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Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif
wow I've just put the LM4562, I'm stunned
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Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif
PS: the STX measures better than the ST on the line-out, I'm personally back on the STX!


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Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I really wouldn't hold my breath for the ST..it was a sheer waste of cash/time/energy for me, won't get burned twice I tell you...the STX is fantastic
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There is many more in these threads just like this.
 
Feb 13, 2010 at 12:22 AM Post #1,458 of 5,722
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Originally Posted by wali /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I have made one observation with STX.

It sounds really good in the first 15 or so minutes of listening and the sound gets less detailed and fatiguing from then on until it sounds completely uninteresting.



turning off the computer every 15 mins is also an option.
 
Feb 13, 2010 at 6:29 PM Post #1,459 of 5,722
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Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif
turning off the computer every 15 mins is also an option.


I was wrong about STX, I was using the 64-300 ohms setting for my HD580. I should have used the 300-600ohms setting and played with the volume control.
 
Feb 13, 2010 at 7:28 PM Post #1,460 of 5,722
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Originally Posted by wali /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I was wrong about STX, I was using the 64-300 ohms setting for my HD580. I should have used the 300-600ohms setting and played with the volume control.


Which seems to be a reoccuring issue. People not setting the card up properly.
People either setting the gain too low or to high and complaining it is fatiguing--well yeah, way too much gain!
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Glad you got it figured out. You can also swap out the opamp to tune more to your liking.
 
Feb 13, 2010 at 11:40 PM Post #1,462 of 5,722
I'm using 64-600 gain too with my HD 600 - 12 relax, 24 normal, 40 heavy music.
24% with 64-600 equivalently 100% with 0-64, and I want to note that is more transparent sound with a lightweight bass = more details and space. I like 0-64 at night with still music (not only
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300-600 gain makes bass overloaded and treble less soft.

kuben
HD800 with STX sounding good enough? =) You're using stock amps?
 
Feb 14, 2010 at 12:39 AM Post #1,463 of 5,722
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Originally Posted by kuben /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Im using 64-300ohm for 300ohm hd800's and the volume is set to 3 when i want to relax and 6 when i want it loud


check out the HD800 impedance vs. frequency chart, it even jump above 600ohms in mid range, that headphone is a monster!

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Use the setting which I'm using:

-300-600ohms
-use xonar software like preamp and set the volume there at 50%
-use foobar to control the volume
 
Feb 14, 2010 at 12:43 AM Post #1,464 of 5,722
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Originally Posted by KingFiercer /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'm using 64-600 gain too with my HD 600 - 12 relax, 24 normal, 40 heavy music.
24% with 64-600 equivalently 100% with 0-64, and I want to note that is more transparent sound with a lightweight bass = more details and space. I like 0-64 at night with still music (not only
smily_headphones1.gif
).
300-600 gain makes bass overloaded and treble less soft.



you're using the 300-600ohms setting using xonar software as volume control. that means you can only listen to 10% or more... Use xonar software as preamp and set the volume at 50% or more. use foobar to control the volume.
 
Feb 14, 2010 at 1:18 AM Post #1,465 of 5,722
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Originally Posted by kuben /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Im using 64-300ohm for 300ohm hd800's and the volume is set to 3 when i want to relax and 6 when i want it loud


You are doing your HD800 some SERIOUS injustice only amping them with the STX.
 
Feb 14, 2010 at 3:27 PM Post #1,466 of 5,722
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Originally Posted by KingFiercer /img/forum/go_quote.gif
kuben
HD800 with STX sounding good enough? =) You're using stock amps?



Not good
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Im using stock opamps but i want to try 3x797BRZ

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Originally Posted by Bojamijams /img/forum/go_quote.gif
You are doing your HD800 some SERIOUS injustice only amping them with the STX.


I know
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But Im saving money for Buffalo II and B22.
 
Feb 14, 2010 at 4:54 PM Post #1,467 of 5,722
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Originally Posted by kuben /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Not good
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Im using stock opamps but i want to try 3x797BRZ



only if you get someone w/ an oscilloscope to check whether they're not oscillating...you really don't wanna ruin your HD800, do you?

rolling opamps blindly will not work on pesky non-unity gain stable opamps...it just won't.

and those that are easy to roll sound like **** anyway...LME49720/OPA2132/5532/2114/etc etc.

the HD800 is said to be hard to drive...it's a disgrace to run it from the $2 TI HP amp IC that's on the stx...the day you'll shell out $500 or so on a real headamp, you will be amazed...don't believe the hype.
 
Feb 14, 2010 at 9:55 PM Post #1,468 of 5,722
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Originally Posted by kuben /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Not good
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Im using stock opamps but i want to try 3x797BRZ



I know
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But Im saving money for Buffalo II and B22.




You may want to just use the AD797 for a buffer. If you use the same model for both I/V and buffer the "negative" aspects of the sound signature can compound. Many STX/ST users use it for the DAC quality and not so much for the headphone amplifier. Possibly a nice tube amplifer using the STX DAC with some high quality opamps?
 
Feb 16, 2010 at 12:46 AM Post #1,469 of 5,722
Any updates for the opamps?I am newb to this section of modding cards so i have ordered 5x LME49720 since i can get them free :p.I love bass and clear sound.Using Sennheiser HD 555.
I want to use them for headphones aparently,so shall i only put 2 to I/V or shall i also try to buffer?Also other Opamp recommendations are welcome
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Feb 16, 2010 at 1:01 AM Post #1,470 of 5,722
If your using the headphones amplifer you only have to change the I/V opamp pair. The buffer opamps is used only for the line output.
Make sure you order LME49720NA, the NA - DIP8...any other model and you will have to use adapters. Many liek the HA models but you have to use adapters with them but TO-99 metal can opamps are usually the highest grade of any opamp family.
Good luck on your tests.
 

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