[devilboy]

I have the 2/800 combo but have only listened with a Metrum Octave DAC. I wanted to get away from the slightly bright sound I was getting with the Burson Virtuoso so I fired up the old Metrum again and its natural tone is a nice fit for the 800.
Wish I had more info. Sorry.

 

[thecrow]

I have the 2/800 combo but have only listened with a Metrum Octave DAC. I wanted to get away from the slightly bright sound I was getting with the Burson Virtuoso so I fired up the old Metrum again and its natural tone is a nice fit for the 800.
Wish I had more info. Sorry.

I had a quick listen to the octave. I certainly found it on the warmer side.

It will certainly be in the mix if I look for a new dac. Main concerns I had for it was if it was open enough (compared to other options) in details/soundstage and if the octave/wa2 will prove a little too warm.

I'll use my irdac as a guide to where i might want to take it once my amp and tubes arrive over next couple of weeks.

 

[walls]

I have a matched pair of Tung sol 5998's I was thinking of letting go. If interested pm me.

 

[walls]

 

[ru4music]

I've had the WA2 for about 5 years now, mainly with Senn HD650s. Ive always been using the TS 5998s as I've always read that these were the best outside of the GECs. I just recently got a pair or TS 7236s,and to my surprise, I found the 7236s to be much more musical and enjoyable than the 5998s. To me the 5998s sound kind of dry, mechanical and boring in comparison to the more musical TS 7236s. Am I alone in feeling this way?

I could see where the HD650's may lean towards the TS 7236.  What driver and rectifier tubes are you using?  I have not tried the TS 7236, but the 5998/ `74 6N23P Reflektor paired with the HD800 is superb. 

 

[cant beat BEATS]

I could see where the HD650's may lean towards the TS 7236.  What driver and rectifier tubes are you using?  I have not tried the TS 7236, but the 5998/ `74 6N23P Reflektor paired with the HD800 is superb. 

Rectifiers are Mullard EZ80
Drivers are Amperex 7308 and Orange Globe 6DJ8s. Trying to get those Siemens CCa's

 

[StanT]

I've had the WA2 for about 5 years now, mainly with Senn HD650s. Ive always been using the TS 5998s as I've always read that these were the best outside of the GECs. I just recently got a pair or TS 7236s,and to my surprise, I found the 7236s to be much more musical and enjoyable than the 5998s. To me the 5998s sound kind of dry, mechanical and boring in comparison to the more musical TS 7236s. Am I alone in feeling this way?

Nope,
 
I prefer the TS 7236 with my 650s, as well. I prefer 5998s with my T1s. 

 

[ru4music]

Rectifiers are Mullard EZ80
Drivers are Amperex 7308 and Orange Globe 6DJ8s. Trying to get those Siemens CCa's

My personal recommendation would be to hold off on the Siemens CCa(s) and look for a good pair of Russian  `74 or `75 (single wire getter post) (silver shield) 6N23P Reflektor(s).  They are honestly that good (I'm not kidding!!!)
 

 
 
IMHO, the CCa(s) deserve their reputation but are a lessor tube compared to the above referenced Reflektor, which can be had for less money.  Please use caution if sourcing the 6N23P(s) as they're scarce enough not to be available from premium ($/ reputable) tube dealers and generally need to be acquired by auction sites.

 

[jhljhl]

  Nope,
 
I prefer the TS 7236 with my 650s, as well. I prefer 5998s with my T1s. 

The hd650 can be a little dark.  I think the 7236 makes them sound like hifi ss stereo meaning the ts 5998 can bring typical tube warmth - the ts 7236 are more "strident" less "bloom" to me.  I like them for a faster sound. 

 

[Krutsch]

 
The hd650 can be a little dark.  I think the 7236 makes them sound like hifi ss stereo meaning the ts 5998 can bring typical tube warmth - the ts 7236 are more "strident" less "bloom" to me.  I like them for a faster sound. 

 
You are right-on with that description. The TS 7236 is an awesome match with the HD-650; I find the TS 5998 too bloomy with the HD-650.
 
If you are willing to throw your money away, try to find a Western Electric 421a ... it's the perfect compromise between those tubes with a tonal quality that stands alone.

 

[ru4music]

   
You are right-on with that description. The TS 7236 is an awesome match with the HD-650; I find the TS 5998 too bloomy with the HD-650.
 
If you are willing to throw your money away, try to find a Western Electric 421a ... it's the perfect compromise between those tubes with a tonal quality that stands alone.

It's been a while since I listened to the hd650 on the wa2.  I'll need to test them out with the TS 5998/ 6N23P tube combo.

 

[jhljhl]

   
You are right-on with that description. The TS 7236 is an awesome match with the HD-650; I find the TS 5998 too bloomy with the HD-650.
 
If you are willing to throw your money away, try to find a Western Electric 421a ... it's the perfect compromise between those tubes with a tonal quality that stands alone.

Actually I was using 421a tubes I misspoke.  But I said they have more warmth though not too much for me even with the hd650.

 

[ardilla]

Ahh - got the WA2 out from its shameful storagein a closet, fired it up and plugged in the HD800. What a bliss. I love this amp!

 

[thecrow]

A dac question again....

Whilst still waiting on my wa2 to arrive I've found a good price on a cas192d questyle dac. As I understand it's a dac with great detail and clarity but quite neutral.

Has anybody had any experience with this dac?

I had a suggestion 2 pages back that the X sabre has worked well for another member but how do you think these very much neutral dacs would go with the wa2 when used with hd800s?

Should I instead look for a dac with some more warmth as well as detail that I seek?

( I understand a lot of this is up to personal taste)

Thanks

 

[ardilla]

A dac question again....

Whilst still waiting on my wa2 to arrive I've found a good price on a cas192d questyle dac. As I understand it's a dac with great detail and clarity but quite neutral.

Has anybody had any experience with this dac?

I had a suggestion 2 pages back that the X sabre has worked well for another member but how do you think these very much neutral dacs would go with the wa2 when used with hd800s?

Should I instead look for a dac with some more warmth as well as detail that I seek?

( I understand a lot of this is up to personal taste)

Thanks

 
So - what is your personal taste?