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Feb 28, 2024 at 8:19 PM Post #82,411 of 88,418
Pre-CanJam Survey Final update:



Over $2K Bracket

Annihilator x27
Traillii/Ti x22
Trifecta x20

I must say the above is a splendid top 3. A treble king, a midrange king, and a bass king.

The rest:

Xe6 x18
Rn6 x15
Amber Pearl x14
Mentor x13
Fei Wan x12
Storm x12
VEX x11

CP622B x12

Raven x7

Ronin x6
Grand Maestro x6
APX x5
Perpetua x5
Viking x5

Volur x4
EXT x3
Jewel x3
Aura x3
Mason FS x3

DC TI x2
Creator x2
Phonix/LE x2
Legend X x2
Odin x2
Thummim x2
u/a12t x2
Duality x2
Fourte x2
Legend Evo x2
Trio x2
Anole V14
Camelot
Dio
Erebus
Khoas
Maestro SE
Monachaa
Odyssey
Pathfinder
Red Halo
Sharona
Supreme V3
Omnium
Elysian X
Impact
Sho Mk2
Sultan
Canary Pro
NA12

Enigma+
Mason Le Jardin
u18s
Kr5
Khopesh
Titan
Silver HB

Up to and Including $2K Bracket

IER Z1R x26

IER Z1r wins with some authority.

Singularity x15
MEST 1/2/3 x14
Bonneville x13
IE 900 x13

CP54E x11

Monachaa x9
Crimson x9
Diva x9
Spartacus x8

u12t x7
Supermoon x6
u4s x6

Quattro x6

Monarch 1/2/3 x5
Bellos X4 x4
Maestro SE x4
Ascension x4
Nio x4
Project M x3
E12 x3
Cascara x3
Crin Zero Red x3
Supernova x3
Szalayi x3
V16 Divinity x3

Solaris x2
IE600 x2
Magic One x2
Scarlet Mini x2
TS-316 x2
Andromeda x2
Black Star x2
Loak CL2 x2
Twilight x2
Xelento 2 x2
Cadenza 12 x2
Glacier x2
Mezzo LE x2
Twin Pulse x2
Andromeda Emerald Sea x2
E5000 x2
Prestige LTD x2

Ace 2
APP 2
Avant
Fibae 5
FW 10000
Helios
Hero
HS2000mx
Hybrid 3 Pro
Hype 4
IER-M3
Inear PP8
LP1
Mach 60
Madoo 821
Mentawai
Miroak ii
S15
Seraph
Sho
TGX Ear Carbon
To Go! 334
TS-415
Type 512
U3S
Unity
Valkyire
VE8
Verdandi
Volume
X
Zero 2
Neon Pro
Butastur
Andromeda MW10
M4
Spring
Blessing 2
NHB12
Omega Ra
Mirai
Duo
Dorado 2020
IER-M7
Maestro Mini
A8000
FH9
BA7
Neo CP
8Pro
KSE 1200
Xenns Top
Unity

MH335HT
Eclipse
Rosenkranz Silver HB
Canpur CP622B Custom
Elysian Annihilator 202

Thanks to everyone who voted for this impressive list of IEMs.
Ey, my favourite U12t and Andromeda still hang around like atomic cockroaches 😂
 
Feb 28, 2024 at 8:28 PM Post #82,412 of 88,418
Based on your preference of headphones, I’d stick with black or silver and try foam ear tips. Strange you’re ok with the utopia that’s very forward in that 4-6k range and can easy get shouty depending on your chain. What DAP are you using with the Rn6? U12t is an all BA IEM that like the utopia does not have very strong bass presence but more natural level and the BA treble in the U12t is much softer then both the Rn6 and the Utopia. Surprised by the Utopia that headphone can get me on occasion depending on the chain.
Thanks for the reply. I’m using a DX320 Max with a PB5. I even sold my ZMF Caldera because I thought the treble was too sharp at times and proved fatiguing to my ears; too bad, sadly, as I loved the overall timbre- drums and guitars sounded soooo good. The Utopia with a solid bass boost does the trick for me. Although, I may entertain another pair of ZMF closed backs in the future.
 
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Feb 28, 2024 at 8:35 PM Post #82,413 of 88,418
Ey, my favourite U12t and Andromeda still hang around like atomic cockroaches 😂
Give me an acrylic 2 pin Andro anyday. I put the Classic and MW10 in for the poll.

In other news, the Red and Black Bird keeps calling to me. I have missed yet another one and if another one shows up, I don't think I can move Raven fast enough to cover it 😅
 
Feb 28, 2024 at 9:02 PM Post #82,414 of 88,418
I also find BCD's to be a clear upgrade, super hyped for Aroma to come out with their own version-hopefully a ripoff of UM because I think UM do it best with regard to BCD but I prefer Aroma for tuning. BCD Fei wan.

Sidenote, my cat knocked my Jewels off the standing desk and shattered the left one. damn. I ordered through Andrew @ MT, is the way to go about getting it fixed to contact him or Aroma directly? Went back to my A18t's for meow, wow I dislike this signature so much more than my Jewels. Ouchie. Jewel has that subbass hit, A18t just doesn't.
why would an IEM shatter? That's weird.
 
Feb 28, 2024 at 9:24 PM Post #82,415 of 88,418
Thanks for the reply. I’m using a DX320 Max with a PB5. I even sold my ZMF Caldera because I thought the treble was too sharp at times and proved fatiguing to my ears; too bad, sadly, as I loved the overall timbre- drums and guitars sounded soooo good. The Utopia with a solid bass boost does the trick for me. Although, I may entertain another pair of ZMF closed backs in the future.
I have ZMF VC’s I still like them better than the Caldera. I use a tube amp with them though. Surprised the Rn6 was fatiguing with the DX320 max, I personally like the N8i with it in P+ amp on AB mode. The DX320 max is a very nice DAP, unfortunately the only one I heard was the 300 max ti but that one was a brighter DAP from my understanding. The FT cable greatly warms the tone of the Rn6 up, more mid bass, warmer mids and softer highs.
 
Feb 28, 2024 at 10:39 PM Post #82,417 of 88,418
Well. I’m exchanging the Rn6s for Volurs. I have the Rn6s another shot and there was just too much energy in the trouble. Couldn’t take it. That, and I ordered a bunch of ear tips to try. Hope it’ll work. If not, I’m done with IEMs! lol
Very curious to hear your thoughts of the Volur vs the Rn6
 
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:01 PM Post #82,418 of 88,418
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:16 PM Post #82,419 of 88,418
I'm a little surprised too, to be honest, despite it being my personal favorite IEM. Though I will also admit to no small amount of satisfaction in seeing it there. Part of it has to be how unique it is-- there isn't anything else like it, whereas for pretty much any other IEM on there there is at least one other that is vaguely similar.

For anyone interested I here are the results on a Google Sheet if anyone wants to see who voted for what:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uJO4aiweiKFwDq1LfzIW2YHjGNOSoaTwSUNwoZYDMsk/edit?usp=sharing
You don't get enough thanks for doing these fun polls....so here is another thank you!
 
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:29 PM Post #82,420 of 88,418
Wallets ready everyone!
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SP3000T and Novus priced at $2999 and $4999 respectively :ksc75smile:
 
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:34 PM Post #82,421 of 88,418
I have ZMF VC’s I still like them better than the Caldera. I use a tube amp with them though. Surprised the Rn6 was fatiguing with the DX320 max, I personally like the N8i with it in P+ amp on AB mode. The DX320 max is a very nice DAP, unfortunately the only one I heard was the 300 max ti but that one was a brighter DAP from my understanding. The FT cable greatly warms the tone of the Rn6 up, more mid bass, warmer mids and softer highs.
Interesting, I was demoing both in CanJam and my clear preference is on Caldera. Beside the sounding, Caldera is good on both tube and SS amp, but VC sounds meh on SS and has to use a tube amp.
 
Feb 29, 2024 at 12:02 AM Post #82,422 of 88,418
If anyone's in for a larger case to store and carry multiple IEMs and DAPs, give ddHiFi's new CZ300 a try.
DDHiFi_Cases_07.jpg
My review of the case, and it's baby brother CZ180, is online
here.
Good looking cases though I always prefer cases that separate each IEM shell from their cables to protect them. Good review as always.
 
Feb 29, 2024 at 12:03 AM Post #82,424 of 88,418
Just finished another novel, I mean, another detailed review. Lots to cover here, design, sound analysis, comparison, pair ups, etc. And I decided to combine both D16/PB5 in one; it made sense to me. Enjoy the read about the latest iBasso D16 (dac/amp) & PB5 (amp) combo :)

ibasso-d16-pb5-64.jpg!
 

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