[drftr]

Just finished this guy. It illustrates the recent discussion around here about politics. The potential for a volatile outcome is a strong probability. Love listening to music and making art. How about y’all

Nice! Creating art is all about juggling with ideas.

May I say, like a politician?

Alright, alright. Make that a philosopher then...

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[gryphonos]

RN6 has brighter treble in the mid treble. It’s peakier which also gives it more grit and attack, more of a metallic timbre whereas CP622B is slightly brighter in the defintion/ brilliance range, but it’s softer on the ears.

RN6 has a more engaging and bitey treblr, amazing for rock and more dynamic bits, but maybe best in a shorter rocking out session.

CP622B has the engagement to be considered TOTL in dynamics, but it’s certainly not its speciality. It’s a very delicate dance between dynamic (incisive) and ethereal (rippled overtones) treble. It‘s fantastically refined, and makes it a generalist for any music you throw at it.

Ironically, Anni23 and Mentor, though they really are different indeed to my ears, do sound relatively similar if playback is more gentle tempo jazz or instrumental. They both have a similar midbass/ low mid tonality, though their treble is quite different and Mentor doesn’t have the same tonal weight in the sub registers.

I do definitely think the Canpur sounds more like Mentor than Anni23, but it has articulation in the treble rivaling Anni23.

If you like piano, CP622B is the best at that in particular to date. Very difficult to nail the full range of a piano‘s entire scale, especially capturing the nuance of the harmonics and ring in the upper mids, as well as the weight and sustain of the lower octaves. I have a piano track that of the hundreds of iem’s I’ve tried, only about 6 sound “Lifelike” with it, and of those 6, maybe 3 make me go wow. The best, CP622B made me feel like I was outside the realm of what IEM’s can do and almost convinced me it was headphone-tier imaging and outside of head. So tonality + holography/ nuance, very special

A well formulated and absolutely helpful comparison of two already well established IEM and one new candidate which has by your help come up on my radar. Thanks for this support @dleblanc343 .

 

[btwine]

Been there and done that, all for those damn pics!

I have the same exact car. Now I know what this situation would look like, oy! At least you were in a beautiful place.

 

[gryphonos]

P6Pro Ti + Ronin Prestige

… is what I would highly recommend.

 

[Progisus]

Racing with friends in FL

I think that exotica deserves a better garage.

 

[BobJS]

You need to normalize them though, e.g. at 1 kHz, so they can be compared.



Based on this graph I would not expect the Canpur to sound bright compared to e.g. Rn6. I wouldn't expect it to be warm sounding compared to MM either. But graphs don't tell the full story of course.

For the purposes of comparing 2 or more FR graphs, isn't normalizing to 1Khz just an arbitrary convention? One could normalize to another frequency if he wants to, say, start with the bass volume the same on both, and see how the rest of the FR compares. Or one could argue it might be better to normalize by dB (line up the FR graphs along the horizontal axis so they have equal area above and below 0db line). But in this case, how do you compensate for the highest octave of human hearing contributing the least to the overall sound? Or is that already accomplished by the logarithmic frequency axis?

I think this really underscores why it's difficult to get much more than an overall impression by comparing FR graphs. Not to mention those sound characteristics that are not even captured by FR.

 

[drftr]

For the purposes of comparing 2 or more FR graphs, isn't normalizing to 1Khz just an arbitrary convention? One could normalize to another frequency if he wants to, say, start with the bass volume the same on both, and see how the rest of the FR compares. Or one could argue it might be better to normalize by dB (line up the FR graphs along the horizontal axis so they have equal area above and below 0db line). But in this case, how do you compensate for the highest octave of human hearing contributing the least to the overall sound? Or is that already accomplished by the logarithmic frequency axis?

I think this really underscores why it's difficult to get much more than an overall impression by comparing FR graphs. Not to mention those sound characteristics that are not even captured by FR.

It's arbitrary indeed, and the only way to make it useful is if everyone normalizes at 1 kHz. And since that's what most have picked it's probably most useful for others to continue on that path.

These charts are for comparisons but if you can't then they become more like abstract art.

drftr

 

[barrycro]

As a regular attendee of classical concerts and jazz sessions, and as someone who studied piano at a conservatory until the age of 20 especially the live feeling of listening to music, the feeling of being in the middle of the concert hall just like you called it is very
important o me. And just as you explained, it also seems to me that the perception of moving air plays a key role in triggering the impression of visceral power the orchestra. In this respect, I would like to thank you for your comment and I am now of the opinion that the trifecta is exactly up my alley. Thanks.

There are three technologies that have reproduced this effect for me. CFA dd is definitely one also the Empire subwoofer is fantastic for bassy timbre with Unique Melody bcd driver probably my favorite for transmitting the feeling of live instruments.

 

[gryphonos]

further recommendations in no particular order:

P6Pro Ti + Erlkönig LE
SP3000 + Trailli
P6Pro Ti + Trailli
LPGT Ti + Mason FS
SP3000 + Viking Ragnar
LPGT Ti + Multiverse Mentor
RS8 + Multiverse Mentor
RS8 + STORM
RS8 + ANIMA
RS8 + Rn6
LPGT TI + Kr5

 

[wolfstar76]

I forgot to add, I need the Bakoon HPA-21 for the Atriums as well. This pairing is probably one of the best I've heard too for the Atriums

According to @HiFiHawaii808, best pairing now belong to decware-zmf-otl

https://shop.zmfheadphones.com/collections/amps-dacs/products/decware-zmf-otl

 

[KuroKitsu]

Shamelessly plugging, I have my Raven up, looking to trade for a Storm because why not

 

[SweetCans928]

It's arbitrary indeed, and the only way to make it useful is if everyone normalizes at 1 kHz. And since that's what most have picked it's probably most useful for others to continue on that path.

These charts are for comparisons but if you can't then they become more like abstract art.

drftr

Time to start framing some graphs and hanging them on the wall. If my girlfriend objects, I've got the "art is subjective!!!!1111" ace card in my back pocket.

 

[wolfstar76]

I wish. Can one of you bankers or CEOs here buy me a Fei Wan?

Or go to the discover thread, I am sure you will be suggested dozen of cheap Fei Wan alternative.

 

[drftr]

My favourite combination by far:

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[tjzurlaaa]

My favourite combination by far:



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