For the vast majority of enthusiasts, custom IEMs are much like tailored suits, and sport many of same advantages/disadvantages. At the end of the day, are they strictly necessary for enjoyment? No. But for all who have become accustomed to them, their unique qualities are hard to live without.
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I don't quite understand, there is a higher version 2.93.0 in normal circulation (https://m.apkpure.com/tidal-music-hifi-playlists/com.aspiro.tidal) and you got a lower version 2.92.0 by submitting to the beta?
Ja, I could if I used APKPure but I prefer receiving updates from official Google Playstore.
v2.93.1 [Beta] rolled out on Oct 27 and just now showing up for me.
linux4ever
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There are more digital ear scan options coming up in the USofA. that might be more convenient and the same digital files would be valid for at least 3 years. With the added advantage of not needing to keep taking multiple ear impressions for different manufacturers.Getting moulds done is literally one of the most painful things for me it probably also adds up as to why I’m not a fan of universals. My poor ears feel like they’re about to burst
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And then there are people like me who likely dont fall into that vast majority of enthusiasts... I dabbled once. Had to get impressions done 3, maybe 4 times before they were apparently good enough. Got my customs made, they fit well enough, but still cause me discomfort. So I have just found the price and hassle not worth it for me and I have no desire to try again for customs, even if I find something that I really love. I think my ears must just be too sensitive. Only small bullet style IEMs ever really seem to be comfortable for me over longer periods of time.For the vast majority of enthusiasts, custom IEMs are much like tailored suits, and sport many of same advantages/disadvantages. At the end of the day, are they strictly necessary for enjoyment? No. But for all who have become accustomed to them, their unique qualities are hard to live without.
There are more digital ear scan options coming up in the USofA. that might be more convenient and the same digital files would be valid for at least 3 years. With the added advantage of not needing to keep taking multiple ear impressions for different manufacturers.
A lot of audio companies won’t take ear scans yet. They either want physical moulds or scans of moulds.
And then there are people like me who likely dont fall into that vast majority of enthusiasts... I dabbled once. Had to get impressions done 3, maybe 4 times before they were apparently good enough. Got my customs made, they fit well enough, but still cause me discomfort. So I have just found the price and hassle not worth it for me and I have no desire to try again for customs, even if I find something that I really love. I think my ears must just be too sensitive. Only small bullet style IEMs ever really seem to be comfortable for me over longer periods of time.
That’s a shame, but if your audiologist is needing to take impressions that many times over that is a bit of a red flag
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Perhaps. Though it was less that they took them poorly, more just that JH apparently needed way more coverage than they were used to since I'm pretty sure their focus there was solely hearing aids. I think. Either way, it was an unpleasant and expensive experience that I cannot recoup much if any of the expense.That’s a shame, but if your audiologist is needing to take impressions that many times over that is a bit of a red flag
I think digital scans of physical moulds would be the most convenient option. As @aaf evo said, adoption of 3D ear scans is still very limited. Most brands nowadays accept STL scans of your impressions. Even if they still make the CIEM traditionally (i.e. they don’t 3D-print the final shells), they can still print your STLs, then trim them and make a negative off of them like they would a standard silicone mould. I had my STLs made in 2018 or 2019, and I haven’t had to make or ship a single set of impressions ever since. They’ve been an absolute life saver.There are more digital ear scan options coming up in the USofA. that might be more convenient and the same digital files would be valid for at least 3 years. With the added advantage of not needing to keep taking multiple ear impressions for different manufacturers.
wolfstar76
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For some IEMs, custom is almost a must, such as FF MSE. I am seriously considering that option, the only concern is I am not sure if grand maestro is worth the additional $ as I have a slight preference toward grand maestro during my short demoing at CanJam SoCal.For the vast majority of enthusiasts, custom IEMs are much like tailored suits, and sport many of same advantages/disadvantages. At the end of the day, are they strictly necessary for enjoyment? No. But for all who have become accustomed to them, their unique qualities are hard to live without.
For some IEMs, custom is almost a must, such as FF MSE. I am seriously considering that option, the only concern is I am not sure if grand maestro is worth the additional $ as I have a slight preference toward grand maestro during my short demoing at CanJam SoCal.
As someone that has both, spend the extra and get the GM assuming you didn’t mind the extra treble. They’ll have a module coming out supposedly by the end of the year that’s aiming to bring MSE-like sub bass levels to it. The NOAH venting and tunable bass modules are worth the extra cost imo, then the vocal switch I suppose is a bonus
wolfstar76
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You made my wallet really painful .As someone that has both, spend the extra and get the GM assuming you didn’t mind the extra treble. They’ll have a module coming out supposedly by the end of the year that’s aiming to bring MSE-like sub bass levels to it. The NOAH venting and tunable bass modules are worth the extra cost imo, then the vocal switch I suppose is a bonus
And then there are people like me who likely dont fall into that vast majority of enthusiasts... I dabbled once. Had to get impressions done 3, maybe 4 times before they were apparently good enough. Got my customs made, they fit well enough, but still cause me discomfort. So I have just found the price and hassle not worth it for me and I have no desire to try again for customs, even if I find something that I really love. I think my ears must just be too sensitive. Only small bullet style IEMs ever really seem to be comfortable for me over longer periods of time.
Then in your case, your ideal (or optimal) scenario happens to be universals. So you're fortunate, in that there's no additional benefit to be had from going custom. Rejoice and be happy!
Any good recommendations for Bone Conduction CIEMs? I've never considered the benefit of CIEMs as I've been fortunate with UIEMs. All the recent discussions on the topic piqued my interest.
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Hah then yes I'll take that as a win. Except on the same token, I have many many fit issues with universals too. So I remain sad, especially because I think my latest purchase is going to have to go back based on fit alone.Then in your case, your ideal (or optimal) scenario happens to be universals. So you're fortunate, in that there's no additional benefit to be had from going custom. Rejoice and be happy!
You made my wallet really painful .
I’m just trying to help
Any good recommendations for Bone Conduction CIEMs? I've never considered the benefit of CIEMs as I've been fortunate with UIEMs. All the recent discussions on the topic piqued my interest.
I think only Unique Melody offers BCD CIEMs?
Already installed, it doesn't work well with the SP3000: FLAC files are not played in 24bit, but 16bit. Is it the same for you? It seems to be a bug of Tidal. MQA, on the other hand, is recognized correctly.Ja, I could if I used APKPure but I prefer receiving updates from official Google Playstore.
v2.93.1 [Beta] rolled out on Oct 27 and just now showing up for me.
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