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The Watercooler -- Impressions, philosophical discussion and general banter. Index on first page. All welcome.
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I could go demo the twlight and report back later - albeit i can only compare the supermoon off of memory.Twilight vs supermoon comparisons?
From what ive read about twlight's technical performance, it's a step behind turii - which i doubt can keep up to supermoon's resolution
blotmouse
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Not many iems can compete with Supermoon's resolution. That's its super power. What Supermoon fails for me in vs. Turii is timbral accuracy, realism, dynamism, soundstage/imaging and the all important engagement factor. All superior on Turii.From what ive read about twlight's technical performance, it's a step behind turii - which i doubt can keep up to supermoon's resolution
I have not heard Turii Ti nor Twilight, but Turii OG is a darker more bassy Turii Ti, closer in spirit to Twilight. I don't know of anyone yet who has heard all 3 Softears single DD's + Supermoon to fully compare. Turii makes me dance with excitement. Supermoon makes me stop and diagnose the music and wonder why things sound wrong.
Supermoon is too bright for me, overloaded in upper mids. Its bass was also nothing special, sounding more like a rubber diaphragm than a speaker system. Fast yes, but the decay sounds artificial.
The 'moon is also extremely tip, fit, and source dependent. N8ii is a pretty bad pairing. N6ii Ti was decent even though overall I still didn't like it. The gold Sony's and warmer leaning daps are a better bet to achieve a good synergy result.
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By that account, Turii/Ti will be competitive for the best IEMs in the world. Because to me SM already isn't that far off (as a CIEM, with the right source).Not many iems can compete with Supermoon's resolution. That's its super power. What Supermoon fails for me in vs. Turii is timbral accuracy, realism, dynamism, soundstage/imaging and the all important engagement factor. All superior on Turii.
I have not heard Turii Ti nor Twilight, but Turii OG is a darker more bassy Turii Ti, closer in spirit to Twilight. I don't know of anyone yet who has heard all 3 Softears single DD's + Supermoon to fully compare. Turii makes me dance with excitement. Supermoon makes me stop and diagnose the music and wonder why things sound wrong.
Supermoon is too bright for me, overloaded in upper mids. Its bass was also nothing special, sounding more like a rubber diaphragm than a speaker system. Fast yes, but the decay sounds artificial.
The 'moon is also extremely tip, fit, and source dependent. N8ii is a pretty bad pairing. N6ii Ti was decent even though overall I still didn't like it. The gold Sony's and warmer leaning daps are a better bet to achieve a good synergy result.
So I definitely hope to hear the Turii siblings one day.
blotmouse
Headphoneus Supremus
I don't want to oversell Turii, or even hype it since it's practically unavailable to purchase. The summit fi details I find valuable in IEM's were just not part of Supermoon's arsenal for my tastes.By that account, Turii/Ti will be competitive for the best IEMs in the world
Library and genre leanings + a complimentary chain may make the ultimate difference for people. A metalhead, in theory, would be less impressed than an electronic or pop based listener.
endless402
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how about soundstage? Turrii vs Supermoon vs Forte NoirNot many iems can compete with Supermoon's resolution. That's its super power. What Supermoon fails for me in vs. Turii is timbral accuracy, realism, dynamism, soundstage/imaging and the all important engagement factor. All superior on Turii.
I have not heard Turii Ti nor Twilight, but Turii OG is a darker more bassy Turii Ti, closer in spirit to Twilight. I don't know of anyone yet who has heard all 3 Softears single DD's + Supermoon to fully compare. Turii makes me dance with excitement. Supermoon makes me stop and diagnose the music and wonder why things sound wrong.
Supermoon is too bright for me, overloaded in upper mids. Its bass was also nothing special, sounding more like a rubber diaphragm than a speaker system. Fast yes, but the decay sounds artificial.
The 'moon is also extremely tip, fit, and source dependent. N8ii is a pretty bad pairing. N6ii Ti was decent even though overall I still didn't like it. The gold Sony's and warmer leaning daps are a better bet to achieve a good synergy result.
This is true. I wouldn't know about metal so I defer to you for that genre. I agree SM is definitely not an all-genre, all-recording all-rounder. I prefer IE600, for example, for the very reasons you mention, for some less-than-perfect vocal recordings.I don't want to oversell Turii, or even hype it since it's practically unavailable to purchase. The summit fi details I find valuable in IEM's were just not part of Supermoon's arsenal for my tastes.
Library and genre leanings + a complimentary chain may make the ultimate difference for people. A metalhead, in theory, would be less impressed than an electronic or pop based listener.
blotmouse
Headphoneus Supremus
Besides some chi-fi stuff, for real collection candidates, it would be Technics TZ700. Going to probably sell that off soon.New poll. Working in reverse: If you had to choose, what is the most expendible IEM in your collection at the moment?
blotmouse
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Noir > Turii > Supermoonhow about soundstage? Turrii vs Supermoon vs Forte Noir
SM stage isn't small, I would say medium large? The feeling I was left with was "adequate". No problems with it, it's not a defining feature for me though.
Supermoon's stand out features were it's coherency, detail retrieval, and layering/separation. Unfortunately the tuning was not really up my alley and minute technicalities likely suffered due to that fact alone.
You should definitely hear it and decide for yourself. I am getting used to being a bit of an anomaly.
Similar to others here, there’s a bunch of budget chifi sets gathering dust in a drawer somewhere that really need to be cleared out, but from the main collection, it would be the EE Legend X.New poll. Working in reverse: If you had to choose, what is the most expendible IEM in your collection at the moment?
I’ve got a love/hate relationship with that IEM. It’s been nice to hear it again these last few weeks but I really struggle to feel engaged to my music when Im listening to it. All I hear are its faults and weaknesses, whereas with other IEM’s I’ll easily slip into that state where I forget about what gear I’m listening to. I’ll give it a bit more time but it’s probably gonna have to walk the plank soon.
I'm surprised you say that, I hear SM to have a larger (wider/deeper) stage than even Z1R, and that's a big stage. Or maybe that's just a factor of its more open, layered, precise sound. Now you have me really curious about Turii as soundstage is one of my main IEM checklist items.Noir > Turii > Supermoon
SM stage isn't small, I would say medium large? The feeling I was left with was "adequate". No problems with it, it's not a defining feature for me though.
Supermoon's stand out features were it's coherency, detail retrieval, and layering/separation. Unfortunately the tuning was not really up my alley and minute technicalities likely suffered due to that fact alone.
You should definitely hear it and decide for yourself. I am getting used to being a bit of an anomaly.
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Whew..... . Was thinking about the supermoon vs softears. Softears it is for me. THANKS!Not many iems can compete with Supermoon's resolution. That's its super power. What Supermoon fails for me in vs. Turii is timbral accuracy, realism, dynamism, soundstage/imaging and the all important engagement factor. All superior on Turii.
I have not heard Turii Ti nor Twilight, but Turii OG is a darker more bassy Turii Ti, closer in spirit to Twilight. I don't know of anyone yet who has heard all 3 Softears single DD's + Supermoon to fully compare. Turii makes me dance with excitement. Supermoon makes me stop and diagnose the music and wonder why things sound wrong.
Supermoon is too bright for me, overloaded in upper mids. Its bass was also nothing special, sounding more like a rubber diaphragm than a speaker system. Fast yes, but the decay sounds artificial.
The 'moon is also extremely tip, fit, and source dependent. N8ii is a pretty bad pairing. N6ii Ti was decent even though overall I still didn't like it. The gold Sony's and warmer leaning daps are a better bet to achieve a good synergy result.
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Twilight vs turi vs supermoon stage please?Noir > Turii > Supermoon
SM stage isn't small, I would say medium large? The feeling I was left with was "adequate". No problems with it, it's not a defining feature for me though.
Supermoon's stand out features were it's coherency, detail retrieval, and layering/separation. Unfortunately the tuning was not really up my alley and minute technicalities likely suffered due to that fact alone.
You should definitely hear it and decide for yourself. I am getting used to being a bit of an anomaly.
blotmouse
Headphoneus Supremus
Goes without saying for every 1 somewhat negative take on the 'moon, there are 5 positives. Such is the Head-fi, lol.Whew..... . Was thinking about the supermoon vs softears. Softears it is for me. THANKS!
But I think if you already are leaning towards what a single well executed DD can bring to the table, Softears is a great choice and value. Stellar tunings!
endless402
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SM is too difficult to listen to, given the lack of universals...not sure why CA decided that it would be custom onlyNoir > Turii > Supermoon
SM stage isn't small, I would say medium large? The feeling I was left with was "adequate". No problems with it, it's not a defining feature for me though.
Supermoon's stand out features were it's coherency, detail retrieval, and layering/separation. Unfortunately the tuning was not really up my alley and minute technicalities likely suffered due to that fact alone.
You should definitely hear it and decide for yourself. I am getting used to being a bit of an anomaly.
I'll keep an eye out for Turii on the classifieds. Fourte i'm interested in hearing, but no local dealers with it still.
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