The Stax Thread III
Jul 16, 2023 at 12:29 AM Post #23,971 of 25,567
No, I got an email from DCA (for Club DCA members) a few weeks ago saying that the Voce was discontinued and offering it at a steep discount. I think they are just selling out their inventory.

I checked their website and it says "Updated Summer 2022!", so the Voce has indeed been changed since the original.
Weird… Something must have changed

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Jul 16, 2023 at 12:37 AM Post #23,972 of 25,567
No, I got an email from DCA (for Club DCA members) a few weeks ago saying that the Voce was discontinued and offering it at a steep discount. I think they are just selling out their inventory.

I checked their website and it says "Updated Summer 2022!", so the Voce has indeed been changed since the original.
FYI, looks like the Voce update was simply redesigned ear pads:

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Jul 16, 2023 at 12:19 PM Post #23,975 of 25,567
Dang, Voce is almost $2500 now? I thought the original target price for this model (way back) was $1000, or am I mis-remembering? Yeah, just get an L700 or 007 geez.
Voce launched at $3000 I thought. The Headfonics review from May 2018 stated its price at $2999. I think due to inflation it went up to $3300 for a while, but now it's down to $2500.
 
Jul 16, 2023 at 1:22 PM Post #23,976 of 25,567
Jul 16, 2023 at 5:03 PM Post #23,978 of 25,567
Dang, Voce is almost $2500 now? I thought the original target price for this model (way back) was $1000, or am I mis-remembering? That's basically funding "we didn't know what we were doing for a long time". Yeah, just get an L700 or 007 or ES1a geez.
Since it’s fitted in an Ether chassis, the prices would have been similar I imagine…

Would be interesting to compare but I would imagine the Voce would have superior bass response vs an L700 just due to that massive diaphragm not to mention it isn’t built like a Japanese Fisher Price toy… Still love my L700s tho :L3000:
 
Jul 16, 2023 at 5:33 PM Post #23,979 of 25,567
The electrostatic people need to get and the prices:

Stax 009 $1400-1800 (used)
Stax 009 $2200 (new)
Stax L700mk2 $800 (used)
Stax L700mk2 $1200-1600 (new)
Stax 007A $1100-1500 (used)
Stax 007A $1800-2200 (new)
Stax L500mk2 $500-600 (used)
Stax L500mk2 $800 (new)

Don’t waste money on Voce or any of that plywoodman nonsense. All Stax gear is less than 2K
The real authentic true electrostatic sound is found in the Lambdas, 1979-2000.

You have been lied to by the amateur rich. They are the biggest source of lies and error.

Get the L500Mk2 and be happy.
If you want the real taste of estats, they are found in the 1979-2000 lambdas. All can be had for $300 to 1K.
 
Jul 16, 2023 at 7:58 PM Post #23,980 of 25,567
It’s like this message is on repeat.
 
Jul 17, 2023 at 5:40 AM Post #23,981 of 25,567
If someone buys Voce or Plywoodman estats, that means Stax has failed.

It means that the amateur rich and most of the time, the veteran has confused and misled the new uninformed individual that other estats are better than Stax.

Stax started this and should only be the final purchase for Estats.
We talking 1959 to present.

Lambdas are the true estats sound 1979 to 2000.

Not plywoodman (2009 to present), who took ideas from Stax, Sennheiser, Sony, and others or other companies that are only a decade old showing their werid frequency signatures.
 
Jul 17, 2023 at 9:59 AM Post #23,982 of 25,567
@protoss
I guess Stax has failed then?? LOL, that's funny. I hope you are joking, but if not read-on...

It seems to me that you are trying to "intimidate" people (insult people really) to not admit that there are other earspeakers out there. Some that do certain things better than Stax. Stax is not perfect or the be-all end-all of E-Stats. They have had numerous quality and performance issues with earspeakers and energizers over the years. So buyer beware if you are buying used.
That being said, You do you, I'll do me, but I like the Voce and I am not afraid to tell you (or intimated enough not to).
I also have the Lambda NB, SR-009, and SR-007 MKII. They each have their places and purposes.
Voce has been my go-to for E-Stats for a while, HD800 for Dynamics. But I pull the others out occasionally for certain listening sessions.
Ultimately, it is each individual's responsibility to decide what they like.
It is also up to them to decide if they will listen to an insulting poster and be "shamed' or "intimidated" into becoming a sheep and follow their misguided ranting.

To those others talking about the price, I can confirm it was $2999.99 when released.
 
Jul 17, 2023 at 10:52 AM Post #23,983 of 25,567
If someone buys Voce or Plywoodman estats, that means Stax has failed.

It means that the amateur rich and most of the time, the veteran has confused and misled the new uninformed individual that other estats are better than Stax.

Stax started this and should only be the final purchase for Estats.
We talking 1959 to present.

Lambdas are the true estats sound 1979 to 2000.

Not plywoodman (2009 to present), who took ideas from Stax, Sennheiser, Sony, and others or other companies that are only a decade old showing their werid frequency signatures.
No offense, but this is some weird crap.

The e-stat world as we know it would not exist with Stax, that's not really debateable at all.

Nevertheless, that does not earn or entitle Stax to an "exclusive economic zone" around e-stat products and development, which is essentially what you are describing.

Innovation happens because people believe they see a better way to do something, or offer a more pleasing mix of attributes, than existing products in the market. They gamble their money on their vision, and sometimes the market says "you were right, thanks", and sometimes the market says "eh, not really." And when innovative competitors emerge, that stimulates the 800-lb gorilla company to innovate too.

And as consumers, in the long run we're winners in this eternal treadmill towards better.

You are arguing against progress, and thus against self-interest, here. Like I said, some weird crap.


(edit: I did not write "crap". The edit function changed the word I used, without asking. Interesting.)
 
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Jul 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM Post #23,984 of 25,567
Guys it's called the "The Stax Thread." 😆 🤣 😂

Not Voce, plywoodman thread. I'm not over there. Let them be them.

Here at "Stax Thread."

Lambdas and Omegas, rule any else should be called out and made fun of.
 
Jul 17, 2023 at 11:46 AM Post #23,985 of 25,567
This should be an option👎🏾
 

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