The Stax Thread III
Jul 17, 2022 at 10:37 PM Post #22,681 of 25,558
Just to go over this topic once more, as I am very close now to being able to order...

For 007(latest/newest), should I go for Mjolnir KGSSHV or KGST? (Or something I'm unaware of at that price?)

My friend has a 007a+"KGSS Mini", and said he wished he had the money for a tube amp.
I don’t know the current version, but for 007 MK 1 I’d take any KGSShv version over KGST, all day. The 007’s warmth and need for power matches very well with KGSShv (and Carbon, and T2). The early minis were too bright for me with 009 but paired nicely with 007.

KGST is a decent choice for 009 or L700.
 
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Jul 18, 2022 at 2:19 AM Post #22,682 of 25,558
Carbon, and T2
Ok, so these would be the next step up from KGSSHV. Would you strongly recommend a Carbon, for the cost difference(+$2650/double)?
 
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Jul 18, 2022 at 2:40 AM Post #22,684 of 25,558
This is technically the order from top to bottom. The first 5 are interchangeable, not the T2 thou. It's #1

DIY T2
Carbon CC
Kerry new amp
BHSE
Megatron
KGSSHV
KGST
Stax 717
Stax 727 mod
Stax 313 mod
Stax T1W mod
Stax 006ts mod
Stax T1S mod
Stax T1 mod

Personally, the 717 out ranks all of them and the 313 modded. Only thing it can't beat is DIY T2
 
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Jul 18, 2022 at 2:46 AM Post #22,685 of 25,558
This is technically the order from top to bottom. The first 5 is interchangeable, not the T2 thou. It's #1

DIY T2
Carbon CC
Kerry new amp
BHSE
Megatron
KGSSHV
KGST
Stax 717
Stax 727 mod
Stax 313 mod
Stax T1W mod
Stax 006ts mod
Stax T1S mod
Stax T1 mod

Personally, the 717 out ranks all of them and the 313 modded. Only thing it can't beat is DIY T2

I see it like

DIY T2 (the best period, undisputed)
V
V
V
Carbon cc / megatron (elite)
V
Bhse/ Carbon/ mini t2/ og t2 (great)
V
V
Kgsshv/KGST/nova (good)
V
Kgss /hev90 (min acceptable)
V
Modded Stax brand amps (okay for entry level e-stats)
V
Rest of Stax amps
 
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Jul 18, 2022 at 2:50 AM Post #22,686 of 25,558
@Chefguru

Yup, the first 5 are interchangeable.

The 007mk1 was combo with 717. It was one of the greatest combo that was released.
 
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Jul 18, 2022 at 2:53 AM Post #22,687 of 25,558
Whelp, looks like I have to buy a new pair of replacement drivers for my SR-009. After not using them for months I plugged them in recently and found the right driver noticeably lower in volume. Context: I had them in a room of the house that developed mould while we were overseas recently (Sydney had been beset by biblical-level rainfall) and discovered the pads and the cloth had mould. I cleaned them up but it's possible the electrostatic film was damaged from the mould. Or maybe it's a coincidence. Dunno.

Anyway, took them into the authorised distributor along with my amp and we compared my SR-009 with theirs and yep, definitely sounds weaker in the right driver. My wife tagged along and she confirmed it immediately, someone who couldn't care less about audio so that was that. Replacing both drivers seems to be the only recourse as having a matched pair is important. Gonna be about $2,500 AUD inc labour. Really not impressed but it's far, far cheaper than buying a new pair. At least they're giving me a full warranty so it's practically like getting a new pair. Might buy new earpads while I'm at it. Sigh.

On the flipside I'm going to hook up my Woo WEE energiser when the 009 return rather than using the STAX SRM-007 as the sound quality of my pre/power driving the 009 should be waaaaaay above what the STAX amp is capable of.
 
Jul 18, 2022 at 3:15 AM Post #22,688 of 25,558
This is technically the order from top to bottom. The first 5 is interchangeable, not the T2 thou. It's #1

DIY T2
Carbon CC
Kerry new amp
BHSE
Megatron
KGSSHV
KGST
Stax 717
Stax 727 mod
Stax 313 mod
Stax T1W mod
Stax 006ts mod
Stax T1S mod
Stax T1 mod

Personally, the 717 out ranks all of them and the 313 modded. Only thing it can't beat is DIY T2
Nice list. How or where does the WA 3ES fits into the scheme of things?
 
Jul 18, 2022 at 4:49 AM Post #22,689 of 25,558
Whelp, looks like I have to buy a new pair of replacement drivers for my SR-009. After not using them for months I plugged them in recently and found the right driver noticeably lower in volume. Context: I had them in a room of the house that developed mould while we were overseas recently (Sydney had been beset by biblical-level rainfall) and discovered the pads and the cloth had mould. I cleaned them up but it's possible the electrostatic film was damaged from the mould. Or maybe it's a coincidence. Dunno.

Anyway, took them into the authorised distributor along with my amp and we compared my SR-009 with theirs and yep, definitely sounds weaker in the right driver. My wife tagged along and she confirmed it immediately, someone who couldn't care less about audio so that was that. Replacing both drivers seems to be the only recourse as having a matched pair is important. Gonna be about $2,500 AUD inc labour. Really not impressed but it's far, far cheaper than buying a new pair. At least they're giving me a full warranty so it's practically like getting a new pair. Might buy new earpads while I'm at it. Sigh.

On the flipside I'm going to hook up my Woo WEE energiser when the 009 return rather than using the STAX SRM-007 as the sound quality of my pre/power driving the 009 should be waaaaaay above what the STAX amp is capable of.
I had the same issue wit my 009’s and send them in for service. Turned out to just be a bad connection that had to be re-soldered.
So maybe have the service center check the connections before replacing the units!
 
Jul 18, 2022 at 7:40 AM Post #22,690 of 25,558
@Chefguru

Yup, the first 5 is interchangeable.

The 007mk1 was combo with 717. It was one of the greatest combo that was released.
I thought it was the 007T instead of 717 (both 007’s are from 1998). So the 717 was the new , later releass flagship amp to up the game, like maybe next year we will see a T9000 to “better match the qualities” of X9000?
 
Jul 18, 2022 at 8:53 AM Post #22,691 of 25,558
Jul 18, 2022 at 10:05 AM Post #22,692 of 25,558
I heard the WA3ES at a show with 009/009S. It sounded similar to BHSE, so similar rank. The Stax rep guy was there, the bald guy. I was not impressed with the Wa3es. It was neutral, crispy and so-so. For others it will be high end. For me, I was like where the "F" was the tubiness? Had to lie to rep and say it was great. Meh.

I hope not? Stax kind of sucks at making amplifiers. If they do make one? I hope it is a solid state.

It looks like it from the reports. It will most likely be in the top 5 spot of good Estats.
Yes, 717 came out in 2000. But the combo and pairing of the 007 and 717 is amazing. A true match in heaven.
 
Jul 18, 2022 at 11:01 AM Post #22,693 of 25,558
DIY T2 (the best period, undisputed)
V
V
V
Carbon cc / megatron (elite)
V
Bhse/ Carbon/ mini t2/ og t2 (great)
V
V
Kgsshv
What do you get going from KGSSHV to Carbon? Then Carbon to CC? Then from CC to DIY T2?

With Carbon/CC/T2, I will essentially have more versatility/compatibility for other headphones, along with SQ boost?
 
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Jul 18, 2022 at 11:43 AM Post #22,695 of 25,558

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