The RSA Protector balanced portable: Images and impressions 1st page, Please post your impressions . .

[EddieE]

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Originally Posted by hvu /img/forum/go_quote.gif Since, I have a extra HD580 cable sitting around, I was going to cut off the 1/4 connector end and hard-wire it directly to the connector provided by RSA.

How easy is it to do that? Could someone without any prior experience manage it?

 

[Lil' Knight]

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Originally Posted by EddieE /img/forum/go_quote.gif I've bought a 2x 3 pin XLR. Do I need to sell this on and get something different or can this be made to work with the right adapter? If so. What adapter?

It's very simple.

Just make an adapter Kobiconn 4pin (the one in the Protector) -> 2x XLR female 3-pin and you're fine. Basic cost shouldn't be more than 15 bucks.

 

[EddieE]

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Originally Posted by Lil' Knight /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's very simple. Just make an adapter Kobiconn 4pin (the one in the Protector) -> 2x XLR female 3-pin and you're fine. Basic cost shouldn't be more than 15 bucks.

Yeah I was looking at RS just then and reckon it'd be a little less than that.

My issue is I don't know anything about wiring or soldering (we aren't taught that stuff in school here).

Ahh f-it, I'll be fine. I've recently bought all the stuff needed to make a cmoy which is a lot more complicated so I'm going to have to get over the techno fear at some point to make that.

Will give it a go.

P.S. Thanks for the advice and suggestions to all

 

[mesasone]

Soldering is very easy, I'm sure a decent tutorial on Youtube or a similar site should get you rolling no problem.

 

[Duggeh]

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Originally Posted by Lil' Knight /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's very simple. Just make an adapter Kobiconn 4pin (the one in the Protector) -> 2x XLR female 3-pin and you're fine. Basic cost shouldn't be more than 15 bucks.

Don't forget to follow the nonsense rule for DIY adapters.

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Originally Posted by Ray Samuels /img/forum/go_quote.gif Please if you make an adaptor your self make sure you use a good quality wire with 18 AWG. Using thinner wire might not give you all the bottom end that the amp is capable of.

Thin wire means no bass. WATCH OUT!

 

[Ray Samuels]

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Originally Posted by Duggeh /img/forum/go_quote.gif Don't forget to follow the nonsense rule for DIY adapters. Thin wire means no bass. WATCH OUT!

I truely don't know what is your problem, man. Have I pissed you off in the previuse life?

Ray Samuels

 

[El_Doug]

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Originally Posted by Ray Samuels /img/forum/go_quote.gif I truely don't know what is your problem, man. Have I pissed you off in the previuse life? Ray Samuels

Duggeh used to be the Montana sausage eating champion, until YOU showed up.... person

 

[gp_hebert]

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Originally Posted by Ray Samuels /img/forum/go_quote.gif I truely don't know what is your problem, man. Have I pissed you off in the previuse life? Ray Samuels

Well, I'd certainly like more info about the "thinner wire = less bass" theory.

 

[Ray Samuels]

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Originally Posted by gp_hebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well, I'd certainly like more info about the "thinner wire = less bass" theory.

From the sam military wire, 600 volts, one 22 AWG, the other 18 AWG,
Using the same connectors on both ends, the balanced for the Protector & the XLR on the other end, both made by the same company, using the same Protector amp with the same CD player & the same CD. The sound on the 18 AWG is richer on the bottom, with great impact. Now I did say IT MIGHT BE, depending on what wire you use, who makes it, & other factors that have to do with it's purity or meterial used in it.
Ray Samuels

 

[AudioDwebe]

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Originally Posted by Duggeh /img/forum/go_quote.gif Don't forget to follow the nonsense rule for DIY adapters. Thin wire means no bass. WATCH OUT!

Duggeh,

Don't know you from Adam, but IMO, you're being a bit of an...how shall I say it? Let's just say you're not being very nice.

How do you get to "no bass" from Ray's thread where he stated it "might" not provide the bass? He never said thin wire equals no bass. He said "might", as in "possible".

 

[AudioDwebe]

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Originally Posted by gp_hebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well, I'd certainly like more info about the "thinner wire = less bass" theory.

Again, that was never said. I pretty much said that in the other thread, and left it at that. And now you come here spoutin' the same thing? C'mon, man. Really!??!?!

First you missquote, and then on top of that you go on in this manner? You really want to argue cables? I don't get it.

 

[gp_hebert]

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Originally Posted by AudioDwebe /img/forum/go_quote.gif Again, that was never said. I pretty much said that in the other thread, and left it at that. And now you come here spoutin' the same thing? C'mon, man. Really!??!?! First you missquote, and then on top of that you go on in this manner? You really want to argue cables? I don't get it.

I'm not sure what you mean by misquote, as it's Ray who suggested that using thinner wire might give less bottom end to the sound. To be honest, that's not a comment I expect from someone who has designed several circuits and has some engineering background, so I questioned Ray about it, that's all.

If he doesn't want it in the other thread, that's fine with me as he paid for it, but it seems to me that this thread would be the right place to discuss the matter. I didn't intend to start a cable debate, I just wanted to hear Ray's opinion on the subject, considering he's the one who brought it up. I don't get why you're getting upset about this?

 

[EddieE]

OK,
Just from a basic ABC logic point of view, and with no knowledge of DIY whatsoever...

The headphone cable contains the final stretch of wire to bring current to the transducers right?

So if the wire used in an interconnect was thinner/of lower grade material that that wire, I can see how an argument could be made that you could be missing potential... at least on a logical level and ignoring all arguments about wire and cable that have gone on before...

But if you make the wire in the interconnect better than the wire in your headphone cable - how can that make an iota of difference?

It still has the limitation always present in the wire in the headphone cable itself.

I'm not trying to cause trouble here - as you can see above, I am someone with no experience of DIY who wants to make an interconnect.

Good information is somewhat important to me, and I'd like this cleared up.

 

[SoupRKnowva]

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Originally Posted by EddieE /img/forum/go_quote.gif OK, Just from a basic ABC logic point of view, and with no knowledge of DIY whatsoever... The headphone cable contains the final stretch of wire to bring current to the transducers right? So if the wire used in an interconnect was thinner/of lower grade material that that wire, I can see how an argument could be made that you could be missing potential... at least on a logical level and ignoring all arguments about wire and cable that have gone on before... But if you make the wire in the interconnect better than the wire in your headphone cable - how can that make an iota of difference? It still has the limitation always present in the wire in the headphone cable itself. I'm not trying to cause trouble here - as you can see above, I am someone with no experience of DIY who wants to make an interconnect. Good information is somewhat important to me, and I'd like this cleared up.

Dude, everyone wants the cable thing cleared up, it aint gonna happen in this thread lol and im not trying to make fun of you, its just the truth

 

[EddieE]

Soup,
Fair enough, but I'm not really talking about the broader cables debate, which I'm not interested in throwing my hat into.

On this very simple and limited issue I do need some clariffication and whatever my own views on cable, for this question I will assume that wire does make a difference for the sake of avoidng tangents.

If I put it like this -

Let's put down the cable debate and assume for the sake of argument that wire used does make a difference.

Within this world-view and ignoring all broader on-going debates -

Can anyone give me a logical reason on how using wire in an interconnect that is thicker than the wire in the headphone cable make any difference.

A logical reason.

If no one can I'll assume the claim, as it sounds, is nonsense.