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Jul 2, 2023 at 11:11 PM Post #10,216 of 13,741
Fan2 in the house and settling in for a 100+ hr burn in!!! Still loving the SR7, it will be by the pool this 4th of July šŸŽ†

How are you liking the Fan 2 compared to the Neon Pro ?

It takes me some time to get used to the relative lack of treble of the Fan 2 when compared to the Neon Pro or any of the other IEM in my small collection.

I hear then described as "analogue" and "neutral" by to my ear they are more "soft" and "gentle on the treble".

They are a nice listen after acclimatising but they are not a set I can go to after a few hours of something else, I kind of need to commit to them at the start of the day and use them all day at my work desk.
 
Jul 3, 2023 at 1:46 AM Post #10,217 of 13,741
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I'm currently vibing my Penon Serial with the newly acquired Ibasso DC04 Pro, ddhifi TC09s otg cable and the NiceHCK Meetalice šŸ˜ (with kbear 07 tips)
My enjoyment with the Serial is way better with the dc04pro, post burn in compare to when i first use it with the Hiby FC4.
The MeetAlice cable is relatively nice. It does its job well. Penon Space will have to be postponed for the mean time, but i think i will buy different tips before that, preferably the new Penon Coral tips, if they ever release it.
Have a nice week everyone.
 
Jul 3, 2023 at 6:06 AM Post #10,218 of 13,741
Glad you got on board with these!

Starting the weekend listening party with this one and it plays to the 10thā€™s strengths, from the EST ultra highs for the whispers to the DD sub bass when it kicks in.



Glad I did!

The EST was calling strong, then came along Bass. Which didnā€™t help one bit to the cause. Penon just got the knack to draw me in every single time! Hah, well almost.

Anyways, Iā€™m very pleased with Bass pairing at the moment but already had in mind Flow and upocc for later.

AĆ¼r Aurora

Very nice comparo on how the 10th stacks up to the competition!

I do like my upper treble so certainly noticed it out of the box, but when comparing the two, I was surprised how easily I could switch between them and not miss a thing before long.

Same here. Curious, how does Auroraā€™s upper treble compared to say Globe or the others?

Itā€™s interesting to hear AĆ¼rā€™s take on a musical midcentric approach that has very much been a mainstay of Penon tuning, as well as Penon mixing it up by dialling up the low and high ends without losing their midrange special sauce.

Penon is slowly but surely dialing it up a notch, two maybe, no frequencies are left unchecked!
 
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Jul 3, 2023 at 7:28 AM Post #10,219 of 13,741
Glad I did!

The EST was calling strong, then came along Bass. Which didnā€™t help one bit to the cause. Penon just got the knack to draw me in every single time! Hah, well almost.

Anyways, Iā€™m very pleased with Bass pairing at the moment but already had in mind Flow and upocc for later.
Any chance with Obsidian?
 
Jul 3, 2023 at 8:27 AM Post #10,220 of 13,741
Penon 10th and AĆ¼r Aurora

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Iā€™ve been taking some time to burn in and get to know these two excellent sets.

Switching between the two on the OSG - my original cable choice for the 10th & also a good pairing for Aurora as it helps bring out its treble.

The 10th has both ends well taken care of. Good extension and energy. Abundance of positional cues. Live recordings simply sound more electric - from the reverberation of sub bass to the shimmer of cymbals and crowd presence and how all these sounds are experienced in a room or a space.

If the 10th is like being in the thick of a live concert, the Aurora is a more relaxing listen - being closer to the musicians or listening to an excellent soundboard recording with audience sound picked up on the mics, easily locatable on a large soundstage but occupying a different part of the hierarchy.

Bass

Both are 2DD and neither is short on bass. The 10th did a magnificent job with its well extended sub bass. Yet itā€™s the Aurora that has greater sound pressure in its sub bass while 10th has more mid bass.

Both handle bass with a good amount of texture and grip; 10th seems a bit faster.

Mids

Compared to the 10th, Auroraā€™s vocals are more forward, lusher, more layered and more resolving.

Iā€™ve noted this before - 10thā€™s vocals can be a bit grainy and this is noticeable compared to Aurora (as well as the Volt), but they are otherwise very well tuned.

The 10thā€™s mids are in no way sucked out; I would still describe it as W-shaped but with a less pronounced middle hump, where the mids are seen in totality of the whole image.

Treble

10thā€™s time to shine. Crowd noises, harmonics all come across as being quite complete.

Auroraā€™s highs are more relaxed. Ymmv, but I for one found myself wanting a bit more air and presence, and a cable like the OSG helps bring this out.


At the end of the day, nothing is significantly missing from either. They are very complementary sets, there is space for both and Iā€™m not trying to be diplomatic here. They are both coherent, differently but very persuasively tuned sets and even in switching between them, I find it takes only a short period of adjustment to be able to enjoy them without reservation.
Great comparison! By the way, can you do a quick comparison of Aurora and Volt? I'm not sure whether I will still need the Aurora.
 
Jul 3, 2023 at 8:53 AM Post #10,221 of 13,741
Any chance with Obsidian?

I gave Obsidian a missed, Impact cable too. Reason being it wasnā€™t a coaxial which I initially thought it was.

Bass to me was more interesting as it has an uncommon (75% occ + 25% pure silver) alloy topped with ofc shielding making it a coaxial that I was looking for.

Are you planning to get it for your 10th? Perhaps @-rowan- could chime in as he has Obsidianā€™s close cousin the stock Impact?
 
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Jul 3, 2023 at 9:45 AM Post #10,222 of 13,741
The delivery crew brought some joy today. Sounds pretty good out of the box, though running in is definitely in order for the dual DD to open up

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Jul 3, 2023 at 12:40 PM Post #10,223 of 13,741
Ok, guys. I bought a cable that's essentially a modular version of the ISN G4 cable for my 10th AE, but the end where the modular termination was ended up coming loose.
Basically, I need someone to solder a 4.4mm termination on to my cable.
Anyone able to help me out?
Obviously will compensate accordingly.
Much obliged!
 
Jul 3, 2023 at 3:09 PM Post #10,224 of 13,741
Ok, guys. I bought a cable that's essentially a modular version of the ISN G4 cable for my 10th AE, but the end where the modular termination was ended up coming loose.
Basically, I need someone to solder a 4.4mm termination on to my cable.
Anyone able to help me out?
Obviously will compensate accordingly.
Much obliged!
If you're down to pay around 50$, i think you can solder any cable you want lol. Pay for all the tools and material necessary and all that
 
Jul 3, 2023 at 3:24 PM Post #10,225 of 13,741
Very nice comparo on how the 10th stacks up to the competition!


Same here. Curious, how does Auroraā€™s upper treble compared to say Globe or the others?

Thanks!

I donā€™t think either Globe or Aurora does upper treble notably well.

But Globe has more (lower) treble than Aurora, while Auroraā€™s treble is more detailed, just not exactly forward. But a cable like the OSG reveals more treble in the Aurora and it has greater clarity, resolution and finesse.

Volt comparo coming right upā€¦

Any chance with Obsidian?

Yes, Obsidian is a really nice pairing as well. I enjoy it with the 10th. Itā€™s smoother and darker compared to OSG and brings forward the 10thā€™s mids a little. I also hear more mid bass than with OSG. OSG is better for treble, imaging and clarity though.

Iā€™ve never heard the black Obsidian so my impressions are with the white one, which is apparently tilted a little more towards the sub bass.
 
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Jul 3, 2023 at 4:53 PM Post #10,226 of 13,741
Great comparison! By the way, can you do a quick comparison of Aurora and Volt? I'm not sure whether I will still need the Aurora.

Aurora and Volt

How do you like your bass? Voltā€™s bass DD is best when playing a supporting role to the mids and warming up the mid bass. It can go surprisingly deep but it canā€™t hold a candle to the power and agility of Auroraā€™s bass.

Aurora is by no means a bassy iem per se - like Volt, it has a lush, midcentric tuning, but it takes a different approach to bass and has some of the meanest bass chops on this side of a kilobuck and then some.

So while Volt will give you a richer, more bodied cello, Aurora will provide the thump and texture of a pizzicato double bass all the way down low.

Volt has a wetter, fuller presentation, which is not to say Aurora is dry, lean or even neutral; it just goes for a little more overt clarity and separation. They both live in the mids but do it a little differently. Just bear in mind that if youā€™re coming from something as lush as Volt, Aurora may sound less bodied for a while. (In the same way that if you were coming from Aurora, youā€™d probably have the same adjustment to make with the 10th.)

Voltā€™s treble is even more relaxed than Auroraā€™s. Volt does have that bit of upper treble providing imaging and positional cues. But cymbals and the like sound more complete on Aurora, though that again is relative.

I hope that helps. For consistency, I used OSG for this comparison as well (and in any case, OSG was my former Volt cable pairing before I got my Totem).
 
Jul 3, 2023 at 6:44 PM Post #10,227 of 13,741

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Jul 4, 2023 at 1:17 AM Post #10,228 of 13,741
I gave Obsidian a missed, Impact cable too. Reason being it wasnā€™t a coaxial which I initially thought it was.

Bass to me was more interesting as it has an uncommon (75% occ + 25% pure silver) alloy topped with ofc shielding making it a coaxial that I was looking for.
This is incoming as well. Will try this out very soon, thanks...
Are you planning to get it for your 10th?
Yes.
Perhaps @-rowan- could chime in as he has Obsidianā€™s close cousin the stock Impact?

Yes, Obsidian is a really nice pairing as well. I enjoy it with the 10th. Itā€™s smoother and darker
This is good me. Darker is good, considering that treble resolution is sometimes Too revealing
compared to OSG and brings forward the 10thā€™s mids a little. I also hear more mid bass than with OSG. OSG is better for treble, imaging and clarity though.
My own experience with the OSG, adds weight. I'll try this out
Iā€™ve never heard the black Obsidian so my impressions are with the white one, which is apparently tilted a little more towards the sub bass.
Thanks
This is good news indeed
Maybe, I'll get the OS266 also, had great success with the 133 on the Globes.
I am actually looking for a Totem alternative (I wish, lol)
If all fail, this could be the only cable I'll have to buy twice, the Garden Hose Supercharger...


No Go for the DHC 8 core, this set is more of an ALL BA specialist, more suited to Tansio tuning, adds volume and weight to everything...
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Jul 4, 2023 at 6:32 AM Post #10,229 of 13,741
Is it just me or did anyone else notice the number 10 when you place the R and L IEM together? The center blue part, one is straight and one is rounded? Has this been mentioned before?

Has everyone already noticed this, if so, Iā€™m so behind. Lol :)
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