[JoetheArachnid]

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I understand that logic. You're not getting the purest audio signal if you're able to tweak EQ somewhere in the audio chain. However, I assumed that when the E7 was docked, that the E7 and E9 works synonymously as one device, so I thought you were able to use the E7's EQ settings, and the E9's amping with no degradation of the source between both devices (as I thought they worked as one similar to the E7's DAC and AMP properties). I'm not knowledgeable as to how all this works, so forgive me for misunderstanding how all this works. They're both great products and I'm very pleased with what they both can do.

I don't NEED the E7's EQ settings, but if I did, I wouldn't mind undocking it and using it in the way I posted, even at the cost of it not being a TRUE line out...

As I understand it, the E9 dock completely bypasses the E7's internal amp, ONLY using the DAC section. Since the EQ is implemented as part of the amp section, that gets bypassed too. Yeah it's a bit annoying, but since you've almost certainly got the E7+E9 combo plugged into a computer you probably have access to some kind of EQ on there which can be used instead. Perhaps FiiO could post the EQ curves they use for the bass boost? It's probably a trade secret...

 
There's also supposed to be a standard LOD cable (L7) for the E7 coming at some point to allow you to use it as a standalone DAC. Don't know when we'll see it, though.

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Lol.
 
In any case, I sincerely hope Fiio gets the praise it deserves for making such a remarkable, affordable product! I can't wait to see what you guys have planned in the future.

 

[JamesFiiO]

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Lol.
 
In any case, I sincerely hope Fiio gets the praise it deserves for making such a remarkable, affordable product! I can't wait to see what you guys have planned in the future.

Thanks! next year we will release a really huge bomb!

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

What. I just realized RIGHT NOW that I'm double amping with my undocked method. I have NO IDEA why I thought I was carrying a line out signal from the E7 to the E9... I KNOW better... considering I myself am waiting for the L7 and even expressed how much I wanted one in the L7 thread.
 

 
I'm so stupid. This whole discussion could've been avoided.

 
Even then, the amped signal from the E7 to the E9 is VERY clean, which is why I thought it was a line out signal. XD
 
Again, I KNEW this, but just forgot in the past few days of messing with the E9. My new toy is so distracting!

 

[JamesFiiO]

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As I understand it, the E9 dock completely bypasses the E7's internal amp, ONLY using the DAC section. Since the EQ is implemented as part of the amp section, that gets bypassed too. Yeah it's a bit annoying, but since you've almost certainly got the E7+E9 combo plugged into a computer you probably have access to some kind of EQ on there which can be used instead. Perhaps FiiO could post the EQ curves they use for the bass boost? It's probably a trade secret...

 
There's also supposed to be a standard LOD cable (L7) for the E7 coming at some point to allow you to use it as a standalone DAC. Don't know when we'll see it, though.

In fact, there are big different between hardware EQ and software EQ, the soft EQ will install phase distort so it is not so nature! if we have enough time we can develop an desktop graphic equalizer to headphone! or just 3 bands
 
includes bass, middle, treble!

 

[gavinfabl]

Thanks! next year we will release a really huge bomb!

What sort of bomb

portable or full size

any other clues or photos please

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

I'm sure it's too early to start theorizing. I'll wait until Fiio surprise us all with their OWN Headphone lineup. 

 

 

[JamesFiiO]

We have a serious plan of our future, but will be step to step! but all will be high quality, high performance, high cost efficience!
 
Now I can tell that there will be at least one total new portable amp! and one products is about hight definition audio!

 

[gavinfabl]

Cant wait. On my birthday wish list already

 
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We have a serious plan of our future, but will be step to step! but all will be high quality, high performance, high cost efficience!
 
Now I can tell that there will be at least one total new portable amp! and one products is about hight definition audio!
 
 

 

[Riku540]

Argh, teasing us just as we receive your newest product! Either way, I am officially a fan now; and eagerly waiting to see what is to come in the future!

 

[gavinfabl]

I think I am renaming Santa, new name Fiio Clause

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Argh, teasing us just as we receive your newest product! Either way, I am officially a fan now; and eagerly waiting to see what is to come in the future!

 

[JoetheArachnid]

I read ClieOS talking about a true audiophile level amp called the E11 at some point. I think it was a bit of industry knowledge and a bit of guesswork, but it does see like the next logical step. Considering how floored people seem by the E9 at this point, I can't think what they'll bring to the table, and more importantly at what price.
 
Also James, thanks for getting back to me about the EQ. A decent and affordable desktop graphic EQ would be a nice piece of equipment to have on the market. Or like you said, the E7 with not just bass boost but with 3 levels of treble and mid boost too! Some people seem put off using the E7 with warmer headphones since it's already slightly warm, but with treble boost that wouldn't matter so much.
Just ideas, not complaining. Your products so far are beyong great, best of luck to you guys with all future ventures.

 

[will13xo]

the FiiO E7/E9 combo rocks!!!
thank you head-fi,miccasttore,and FiiO.

 

[AKIMbO]

So I don't have much experience with headphone amps, but after listening to my music on my Fiio E9 for a day I can confirm what others have said in this thread.  The Fiio E9 is a very neutral amp that doesn't color the music at all.  It's also extremely powerful.

 

[audionewbi]

Just finally done about 40 hours of burning o boy do i love fiio E9+E7 from my PC or what!!! It is heaven, thank you Fiio, really thank you. It handels my k702 like it is nothing! The Bass that I never heard is finally there! Love you guys!