Well the U12 comes with the premium cable (which is the nicer cable)....question is whether or not the Nio is meant to ship with the premium or professional.
True, UE is like, okay, this is all we have, you want it or not?Not that they should care what with IEMs being just a small part of all the audio they sell under UE name and UE itself being only a small part of the big Logitech empire. 64Audio, Nobel, VE and other CIEM guys are like speck-in-the-universe boutique mom-and-pop stores compared to big corporations. I noticed the same with fountain pens. Chi-fi and other eastern countries are becoming a growing threat to most revered and veteran manufacturers from German/UK/US/Japan. When a $500 pen and nib can be recreated for $10 without much loss in quality by mass manufacturers a trend that is forcing industry veterans to produce similar quality pens under $50, I wonder why not a behemoth like UE or other electronics company take a cue and get into wireless CIEM/UIEMs driving the cost per unit down to issue $100 IEMs that presently are selling for $2000 by boutique shops.
UE's lack of innovation as compared to that of the rest reminds me of this hilarious waitress scene in "Hell or High Water", one of the best films I watched in the last two years. There is that 'true Americana' feeling David Mackenzie treats the film with; much like the way Coen Brothers do every film of their's all the time. Some just know the soul of the land they live in inside out so well that even a random puking scene can tell which particular state that film is set in.
Maybe we need more Apples to take over 64Audio and like without throttling innovation after acquisition like they did with Beats by Dr.Dre.
Yeah, what’s also strange is that bloom audio has the professional cable listed as coming with the Nio; Audio46 has the premium listed.Didn't realize it, but yes, seems that Nio came stock with professional instead of premium cable in the box.
Both use identical silver plated copper wires, with everything else being different. Pro has 2pin connector mold that works with either recessed or non-recessed sockets, shrink wrapped y-split, clear tube chin-slider, and right angled 3.5mm only plug; the only option with Pro is either 48" or longer 64" wire length. Premium has more "premium" hardware with a nicer looking 2pin connector mold (with either recessed or non-recessed option), 64 audio branded y-split and plastic chin slider, and different plugs to choose from, 2.5mm or 3.5mm, while 4.4mm used to be available but temporary not an option.
The discrepancy is that under Premium cable it says that it is only available with 64 audio universal U12t, U18t, Trio, and Fourte. Nio is not listed in there. But under the Nio product listing, indeed it says 48" Premium cable, unless it was just a copy'n'paste error.
Premium on the left, Professional on the right:
Didn't realize it, but yes, seems that Nio came stock with professional instead of premium cable in the box.
Both use identical silver plated copper wires, with everything else being different. Pro has 2pin connector mold that works with either recessed or non-recessed sockets, shrink wrapped y-split, clear tube chin-slider, and right angled 3.5mm only plug; the only option with Pro is either 48" or longer 64" wire length. Premium has more "premium" hardware with a nicer looking 2pin connector mold (with either recessed or non-recessed option), 64 audio branded y-split and plastic chin slider, and different plugs to choose from, 2.5mm or 3.5mm, while 4.4mm used to be available but temporary not an option.
The discrepancy is that under Premium cable it says that it is only available with 64 audio universal U12t, U18t, Trio, and Fourte. Nio is not listed in there. But under the Nio product listing, indeed it says 48" Premium cable, unless it was just a copy'n'paste error.
Premium on the left, Professional on the right:
This was already confirmed. Premium and pro cables uses the exactly same wires. They only have new connectors and Y-split. Just looks fancier.
Nah...don't worry about that, is not public advertised and not known by a lot of people. As you mentioned, doesn't make much sense to pay 100$ more for the same cable with a couple (not so fancy) different connectors (unless you need balanced connection)? But people still do that.Oh. Thank you. Pretty new to thread and 64.
Taylor Sheridan who wrote "Hell or High Water" (for David Mackenzie, the director) that is set in hot Texas went on to direct his own maiden film as director the following year -"The Wind River" that shares similar subject treatment but set in snowy Wyoming. An equally beautiful film you might want to consider watching, if you own an U18t or A18s - lot of airy and eerie sounds in an otherwise noiseless and deserted snow lands. Nio might be a better fit for "Hell or High Water" - a lot of wind and bassy automobiles and grunts and gun fire. I am doing my best to make film recommendations pass off as relevant matters in 64Audio thread.
OT as well, but Hell or High Water is a stunning film indeed. The final scene in particular is a writing masterclass. 'Haven't gotten around to seeing Wind River yet, but I did see Sheridan's Sicario (directed by Denis Villeneuve), which I thought was brilliant too. Speaking of Villeneuve, bringing the topic back full-circle, all his recent films are excellent with audiophile gear. Arrival is a film in particular that stuck with me for its sound design. The theatre I was in was literally rattling from all the sub-bass hits. 'Surely worth checking out with the Nio too.
Thanks for the recommendation @Facta and @Deezel177 ). But it was a bad timing for that movie release, it could have won many awards if it wasn't for the connection to Miramax 
Also, love the Sicario as well and can't wait until the 3rd is released to complete the trilogy. And its soundtrack is very intense, that Johann Johansson score literally gives me chills. Was actually telling my wife the other day after watching the last season of Ozark how much I miss Sicario and can't wait for the last one 
