The Official 64 Audio Thread | apex & tia Technologies
Nov 16, 2018 at 4:45 PM Post #5,581 of 23,600
Hey Guys,

I have been considering a pair of IEMs for a while, and this was a great chance this morning to give the 64 Audio IEMs a listen and see what I think. I listened to the U18Tzar, Tia Trio, and Tia Fourte.

I listened to the Tia Fourte first. I immediately noticed the amazing 3d like imaging and soundstage. Very impressive first impression. The Highs became a bit much on modern pop, brightly mastered stuff, and were a tiny bit sibilant with vocals…*however* with electronica and other genres, they really impressed me. The sub bass is lovely, and is more present than the Tia Trio. There is a *tiny* bit less mid bass than the U18Tzar. The mids are a bit pulled back, so if you like big lush mids these are not the IEMs for you. I value quality bass, and soundstage the most I think, so these were really up the alley. I tried doing a tiny bit EQ on the highs, and this improved them to my ears for the brightly mastered pop stuff. So, if you like big lush mids, don’t buy these, if you are particularly treble sensitive, don’t buy these.

I listened to the Tia Trio next. Compared to the Fourte, the first thing I noticed was a lack of air and space around the notes. You lose the amazing 3d like imaging and soundstage. However, the highs are smoother than the highs on the Fourte. I think I actually preferred the highs in general on the Trio vs. The Fourte. The mids are a bit more present on the Trio, which makes it work better with acoustic music (IMO anyhow.) There is less sub bass and bass in general. If you can get a deal on these, they make an argument for being the best I have heard for the price. Definitely a recommended listen.

I checked out the U18Tzar next and….man I was disappointed. My notes say “Kinda Boring, muffled sounding in comparison to the Fourte.” I could see these being the right IEMs for you if you like a more reference neutral tuning, but for me and my ears, combined with the astronomical price, I just couldn’t get on with these. They don’t have the 3d imaging and soundstage I mentioned, nor the airy treble. I don’t know, just not for me. Your mileage may vary.

I forgot the mention comfort. These 64 Audio IEMs are immensely comfortable as they all share the same basic shell design :)

So, to wrap up. This morning was an enlightening listening session. The Fourte was impressive enough for me to buy a pair, *however* I wouldn’t recommend purchasing a pair at retail price. I just can’t justify that much for an IEM, no matter how special they are. The Fourte really floated my boat, however, but I can see why people might not enjoy them at all and in fact, might actively *dislike* them. I think they are kinda like the Abyss, in that you will love them or hate them. The Trio is the most balanced, yet still involving sound signature out of the three. I would highly recommend them, especially if you can find a deal on them, bringing them into TOTL Campfire Audio type pricing. The U18Tzar….yeah not for me, but you might be different, so try to get your ears on a pair before purchasing, as they are *not* cheap IEMs.

Where were you able to demo this lineup? If i remember correctly you're also from the Vancouver BC area.
 
Nov 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM Post #5,582 of 23,600
The K in here, Soundwriter.
Just change Apex from M20 to M26 for photos purpose, because overall pair nicely.

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Nov 17, 2018 at 12:09 PM Post #5,584 of 23,600
What does m26 module do to sound and how do you get it?
 
Nov 17, 2018 at 12:11 PM Post #5,585 of 23,600
The K in here, Soundwriter.
Just change Apex from M20 to M26 for photos purpose, because overall pair nicely.

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You bought all of this but not RA C Cu? That's the only thing missing from this picture :wink:

M26 - is that a reference to a former carrot, or a modified apex with 26dB isolation (not solid)?
 
Nov 17, 2018 at 9:46 PM Post #5,587 of 23,600
Slightly more isolation than m20...what about impact to sound?

Guessing more narrow stage with even more emphasis on bass vs. m20?
 
Nov 19, 2018 at 11:21 PM Post #5,588 of 23,600
No love for the carrot?
 
Nov 20, 2018 at 4:06 PM Post #5,590 of 23,600
Got it, thanks!
 
Nov 21, 2018 at 1:41 PM Post #5,594 of 23,600
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Hello to our Head-Fi Family!

Our Biggest Sale of the Year kicks off this Friday, with up to 20% off In-Ear Monitors and Accessories. We had many discussions internally about how we could best support our loyal Head-Fi fans and we’re pleased to announce that, new for this year, we are officially extending the sale to our entire Universal line-up. That means over $700 in savings on Fourté, over $340 off Trío and great savings on the rest of our line of Universal and Custom IEMs.

Head-Fi is a vibrant international community with members that span the globe. We’re pleased to announce that our authorized international retailers are also participating in the sale. Visit us directly at www.64audio.com or your 64 Audio Authorized retailer to take advantage of the sale*.

We’ll update this post with the coupon code on Friday morning. In the meantime, here is the complete breakdown:
  • 20% off Fourté, U18t, A18t
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Nov 21, 2018 at 1:57 PM Post #5,595 of 23,600


Hello to our Head-Fi Family!

Our Biggest Sale of the Year kicks off this Friday, with up to 20% off In-Ear Monitors and Accessories. We had many discussions internally about how we could best support our loyal Head-Fi fans and we’re pleased to announce that, new for this year, we are officially extending the sale to our entire Universal line-up. That means over $700 in savings on Fourté, over $340 off Trío and great savings on the rest of our line of Universal and Custom IEMs.

Head-Fi is a vibrant international community with members that span the globe. We’re pleased to announce that our authorized international retailers are also participating in the sale. Visit us directly at www.64audio.com or your 64 Audio Authorized retailer to take advantage of the sale*.

We’ll update this post with the coupon code on Friday morning. In the meantime, here is the complete breakdown:
  • 20% off Fourté, U18t, A18t
  • 15% off all others (Trío, U12t, A12t, N8, A6t, A4t, A3e and Accessories)
  • (excludes A2e and Chord Mojo Amplifier)
We’ll see you Friday!

*If you reside in China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Thailand, Japan, Russia, or Sweden, you'll need to purchase from your nearest 64 Audio Authorized Retailer. Visit our Dealers Page to find a retailer near you.

As a reminder, here are my impressions of the excellent A6t from back in July if y'all need some "convincing" to pull the trigger. :wink:

Hey guys! As you may or may not have known, I just spent four days with my family on the beautiful island of Bali, Indonesia. T’was a brief (but immensely pleasant) vacation, and now that I’m home, I should have a couple write-ups to deliver within the next few weeks. Funnily enough, the most noteworthy development surely occurred during my very last day in Bali: My 64Audio A6t’s finally arrived! At least a couple people were fortunately home to receive the package and I’ve been listening to the IEMs for the past few days now. So, without further adieu, here are my first impressions on 64Audio’s latest mid-tier beast.

64Audio A6t (with M20 modules) - First Impressions

Before I delve into sound, I must first highlight 64Audio’s outstanding turnaround, fit and finish. I ordered these IEMs as a retail purchase (not as a review unit) through Music Sanctuary on the 15th of June and they arrived in Singapore on the 7th of July. That’s just a day over three weeks! This is the second or third shortest wait I’ve had to endure for a pair of custom IEMs - the victors in this regard being Ultimate Ears and Avara Custom - and I think it’s no coincidence that all three companies employ 3D-printing techniques. Despite limitations in fancy bespoke designs, 3D-printing represents unquestionable progress for the industry in commerciality and practicality. Now, all we have to do is wait for the day they can print out six-colour swirls and wood inlays without a hitch. :p


Photo courtesy of Music Sanctuary

Another benefit of this technology is fit and finish. Having owned 15 custom IEMs prior to the A6t’s, I can confidently say that these are the best-built I’ve ever had. The acrylic bodies feel immensely dense and robust, and boast some of the most outstanding lustre, transparency and polish. Additionally, the A6t’s are the most detailed in shape. Every contour of the ear is preserved, such that there are zero air gaps within the canal at all times. There’s no need to push the monitors in every now and again or to wag at the lobes, neither is there any sliding or sloshing when I flex my ears. The disadvantage of this minimal smoothing is that it’s not the most relaxed or vanishingly comfortable in-ear I’ve ever worn. They're among the tightest in my collection, but it's essentially as accurate and secure as fit could possibly get without discomfort or pain. Plus, they boast some of the best isolation despite the APEX module. This is something stage musicians in particular would love and something I could strongly appreciate too.

Sound

Sonically, the A6t’s carry a unique approach towards neutral-natural. What struck me immediately was its clever balance between linearity, tone and dynamic contrast. Although the poster boys for IEMs that juggle those very attributes have been the Aether, Gemini, etc., the A6t is the first I’ve heard that emphasises vocal roundedness. While the former two boast louder presentations as a result of thick notes, vibrant upper-mids and massive energy, the A6t is more laid-back and refined; focusing its merits on a natural vocal timbre first, then building a detailed, open stage around it (rather than the other way around as has become the norm). A characteristic 1-2kHz rise adds great solidity to voices and instruments alike - apparent and appreciated on every track I heard - while the rest of the frequency response is built to complement that in several ways. Peaks along 7kHz and 10-12kHz add healthy amounts of articulation, as well as open up the stage. 64Audio's APEX and Tia technologies continue to contribute great spaciousness and headroom. As a result, the centre-midrange isn't overtly chesty. Rather, it's dense and realistic in structure, placement and tone. I wished there was more energy around 3kHz for more vibrancy and power, but that's something we'll get into further in the Phantom comparisons.

The bass is full-bodied, impactful and expertly controlled despite its accentuation. The majority of its energy sits somewhere between the mid- and sub-bass, which allows it to punch without congestion. This also means great clarity and separation in conjunction with the upper-treble peak. A significant dip along the upper-bass and lower-midrange segregates the low-end from the rest of the frequency response, but the fall is linear enough that coherency is absolutely maintained. What you get in the end is a punchy low-end that’s sufficiently cut for technical performance, but still musical in body and admirably life-like in tone. Also, the low-end's specific tuning makes it entertainingly sneaky on many occasions. Because there's minimal bloom coming from the bass, you almost forget it's there with tracks that start off slow or build to a drop. Then, when the bass does kick in, it punches beautifully; adding an almost theatrical experience to the track as a whole. It's definitely icing on the cake, but man is that icing delicious! :D

vs. the Empire Ears Phantom

Aside from the almost obvious difference that the Phantom is a warmer IEM, the clearest contrast between the two is in vocal forwardness and size. The Phantom posits larger notes that almost fill up the stage, while the A6t's instruments are slightly smaller. Much of this has to do with the Phantom's calmer treble, as well as the A6t's emphasis on the centre-midrange vs. the upper-mids. Instruments on the Phantom sound more vibrant, lively and rich, while the A6t has as great a focus on timbre as it does on precise imaging, clean transients and swift decay. One could call the Phantom more emotional, and the A6t cleaner. However, in terms of bodily resolution, the Phantom takes the cake for me. It's better at differentiating between the different hues, tones and textures that different instruments throw out, while the A6t has more of a set flavour - unquestionably a good one, but a slight flavour nonetheless. Conversely, the A6t's treble peaks give it greater refinement and finesse, as well as more apparent separation.

Like I teased previously, the Phantom is more capable in portraying vocal power. When singers belt, that force is immensely palpable. However, a key element to this quality - a 6kHz peak - has led to some complaints of stridence with certain pairings and/or tracks. On the other hand, the A6t's 6kHz dip minimises this dynamic range for smoothness's sake. So, both have vocals that excel in construction, layering and tone, with a key differentiator being raw power vs. guaranteed smoothness. The A6t is also calmer around 3kHz, which makes it - again - a touch less vibrant, but it's less prone to honky-ness than the Phantom is with select tracks. Both in-ears punch very well down low, whilst maintaining balance with the midrange and treble. The Phantom slightly betters the A6t in extension, which leads to a more visceral thump. But, they're within spitting distance in terms of physicality and robustness. The A6t's Tia driver once again gives it the edge in bass definition and separation, while the Phantom's is fuller, richer and truer in tone.

Treble is probably where they're most different, where the A6t's upper-treble peak gives it greater transient attack and crispness; sounding snappier with more crackle and pop compared to the Phantom. But, the Phantom's linearity here makes it a more natural and easy listen. Although the difference in note size isn't large between the two, the A6t's neutral treble (and upper-bass) makes it sound slightly leaner. Now thankfully, the Phantom is neither overtly thick nor is the A6t fatiguingly lean. Both are sides of the same coin, and it simply comes down to preference. If you'd like your instruments more precise and clear-cut, yet still natural in most respects, the A6t's your pick. Conversely, if you're after a more organic (but less forgiving) sonic palate, and you won't mind lesser articulation if it means hearing your favourite singers belt with full force, then the Phantom it is.

Conclusion... For Now

The 64Audio A6t with M20 modules is a beautiful all-rounder. Unlike most in the genre, it doesn't simply have a generally smooth, agreeable and sufficiently-bass-y signature. Rather, it has a unique emphasis on vocal construction and tone, which works just as magically on Charlie Puth as it does on Charlie Parker. Its midrange-first mentality provides an excellent foundation for the entire monitor to stand on, and the extremes do more than just finish the job. The bass is rounded, thick, organic and punchy, and the treble gives it more than enough space to be so whilst remaining open, airy, detailed and immovably smooth. All-in-all, it's a brilliantly balanced signature that's as natural as it is unique, and I can't wait to spend more time listening to and experimenting with one of my new favourite sub-$1500 IEMs in the industry today. :D
 

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