The (new) HD800 Impressions Thread
Feb 27, 2014 at 7:50 AM Post #8,701 of 28,992
I sometimes find the HD800 could do with a touch more bass. For this reason when recently buying a sealed can I went for the NAD viso HP50 because it has apparently got more realistic bass when using speakers in a room as a reference. I've had them a week and I find them way too bass heavy and I feel it compromises the sound stage massively . I now realise never to doubt the HD800s bass. It's perfect!!!!


have you tried TH 900, my fav bass can.
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 7:55 AM Post #8,702 of 28,992
I sometimes find the HD800 could do with a touch more bass. For this reason when recently buying a sealed can I went for the NAD viso HP50 because it has apparently got more realistic bass when using speakers in a room as a reference. I've had them a week and I find them way too bass heavy and I feel it compromises the sound stage massively . I now realise never to doubt the HD800s bass. It's perfect!!!!

 
For me I like a +2/3 dB bass boost and then it's perfect.
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But I 100% agree that while there are many, many headphones that have more bass there are very, very few (if any?) that have a higher quality bass.
 
Even the LCD-2 with it's mighty bass thump I think still lacks the last bit of bass texture and detail compared the HD800.
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 8:17 AM Post #8,704 of 28,992
  Looking to upgrade my DAC and then amp later on. What are you guys recommendations in the $800-1300 price range DACs? Im looking for strengths in imaging, soundstage, and instrument separation without being too harsh, but not mushy sounding either. Im currently looking at the Matrix X-Sabre. Any other suggestions?
 
And can you hear a noticeable difference between 24/192 & 32/384kHz?


The Violectric V800 is in that price range. Own one myself and it's truely really good with the hd800.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/574418/review-violectric-v800-dac (review by project 86)
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 10:28 AM Post #8,705 of 28,992
I sometimes find the HD800 could do with a touch more bass. For this reason when recently buying a sealed can I went for the NAD viso HP50 because it has apparently got more realistic bass when using speakers in a room as a reference. I've had them a week and I find them way too bass heavy and I feel it compromises the sound stage massively . I now realise never to doubt the HD800s bass. It's perfect!!!!

 
You should give the Martin Logan Mikros 90s a try.   The have a little more bass quantity than the HD800, but the quality is almost as good.
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 10:48 AM Post #8,706 of 28,992
Speaking of high end tube amps, is the cheapest one that qualifies as such for the HD800 the EC Super 7 at $1650?


Depends. If you disregard the value of your own labor, mainline is without a doubt the cheapest totl hd800 tube amp.
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM Post #8,707 of 28,992
Thank you. Thank you. Most helpful.

 
This is the article that caught my eye - http://www.headfonia.com/what-happens-as-the-cushion-pads-ages/
 
I bought my pair used, and definitely hear that glare in the lower treble. The article above points that to pads being worn, which I think mine are. Trying to mend that glare-y-ness in other ways, definitely comes through in some recordings more than others. Hoping new pads will take care of it.
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM Post #8,708 of 28,992
Ooo. That is interesting. I don't think it really gives any information we don't already know in the back of our minds, but it's nice to see it organized and written out.
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 2:05 PM Post #8,709 of 28,992
Serial # 28243. They're here, but I'm in meetings all day. Even if I wasn't, all I have is a Magni/Modi at the office. Maybe I'll try and sneak a listen in around lunch time. This day just became incredibly long.
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 2:18 PM Post #8,710 of 28,992
Serial # 28243. They're here, but I'm in meetings all day. Even if I wasn't, all I have is a Magni/Modi at the office. Maybe I'll try and sneak a listen in around lunch time. This day just because incredibly long.

:beerchug:


There is nothing worse than getting a new toy and not having the time to play with it...


Okay, I can think of something worse: tracking your package to your city, only to find out that it did not get delivered on Friday (and there is no delivery on the weekend).
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 2:18 PM Post #8,711 of 28,992
  Ooo. That is interesting. I don't think it really gives any information we don't already know in the back of our minds, but it's nice to see it organized and written out.

 
Well, it attributes the glare that is sometimes reported to being partly due to worn earpads. I haven't seen that correlation made before, maybe it was, just had not seen it. 
 
Congrats on getting your pair! Be sure to post impressions.
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 2:21 PM Post #8,712 of 28,992
I sometimes find the HD800 could do with a touch more bass. For this reason when recently buying a sealed can I went for the NAD viso HP50 because it has apparently got more realistic bass when using speakers in a room as a reference. I've had them a week and I find them way too bass heavy and I feel it compromises the sound stage massively . I now realise never to doubt the HD800s bass. It's perfect!!!!

 
I find they need a 3-4 db sub-bass boost sloping up from 60hz to 30hz to make them really satisfying for certain non-acoustic genres, when using solid state amps. I also have the NAD HP-50 but I find the biggest problem to be the lack of air relative to the bass volume. This is especially noticeable vs the HD800 which excel in this aspect. Consequently switching from the HP-50 to the HD800 feels like stepping outside into the fresh clean air after being stuck in a dark, squalid basement.
 
You should try the TH-900 for a bassier sound signature that does not lack for air and imaging.
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 3:31 PM Post #8,713 of 28,992
  Serial # 28243.

Does anyone know how many have been produced so far? (If anyone says, "at least 28243," I'm have to schedule you for a murder.) I'm guessing mine are one of the later ones. If that's the case, they're producing around 5600 a year? That seems high, no?
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 3:34 PM Post #8,714 of 28,992
  Does anyone know how many have been produced so far? (If anyone says, "at least 28243," I'm have to schedule you for a murder.) I'm guessing mine are one of the later ones. If that's the case, they're producing around 5600 a year? That seems high, no?

I think they just hit the 30k mark.
 
Feb 27, 2014 at 3:39 PM Post #8,715 of 28,992

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