The New HD 560S: Linear Acoustics at a Breakthrough Value
Sep 24, 2020 at 3:20 PM Post #47 of 2,621
DIY AH's site says "This headphone can be used directly out of a phone when you don’t feel the need to play very loud. Decently loud is no problem.
An external amp allows you to play impressively loud."

Even at 120 ohms, is it true this headphone doesn't require an amp and can run off a phone?

So an easier to drive, more detailed version of the HD600 with a wider soundstage, more extension for about $200?
Well, the Sennheiser site lists the sensitivity as 90 dB at 1 mW. That is significantly less than the HD 600. On paper, looks like almost a wash to me. I would not imagine them sounding tops out of a phone but it's gonna be a personal thing and also depend if you have a good amp to compare to.
The sensitivity is actually 110 dB SPL, “louder” than the HD 600/650.

We feel that the 120 Ω impedance is actually a sweet spot for providing a moderate amount of dampening, combined with the 110 dB SPL sensitivity the amping/power requirements are low and the headphone is fairly flexible! As always, a cleaner, lower distortion amp will provide a higher, scaled up sound quality.
 
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Sep 24, 2020 at 3:23 PM Post #48 of 2,621
The sensitivity is actually 110 dB SPL, “louder” than the HD 600/650.

We feel that the 120 Ω impedance is actually a sweet spot for providing a moderate amount of dampening, combined with the 110 dB SPL sensitivity the amping/power requirements are low and the headphone is fairly flexible! As always, a cleaner, lower distortion amp will provide a higher, scaled up sound quality.

Does this sitting in the sweet spot mean that while easy to power, they would also do well on a tube amplifier that normally makes your 6-series headphones shine?
 
Sep 24, 2020 at 3:23 PM Post #49 of 2,621
Sep 24, 2020 at 3:41 PM Post #51 of 2,621
Sep 24, 2020 at 3:42 PM Post #52 of 2,621
The sensitivity is actually 110 dB SPL, “louder” than the HD 600/650.

We feel that the 120 Ω impedance is actually a sweet spot for providing a moderate amount of dampening, combined with the 110 dB SPL sensitivity the amping/power requirements are low and the headphone is fairly flexible! As always, a cleaner, lower distortion amp will provide a higher, scaled up sound quality.

Thanks, looks like I read the specs too quickly or you guys fixed it after my post :D

The THD is rated at 90 dB ( < 0.05 % (1 kHz / 90 dB SPL) which looks pretty darn good!
 
Sep 24, 2020 at 3:45 PM Post #53 of 2,621
Does this sitting in the sweet spot mean that while easy to power, they would also do well on a tube amplifier that normally makes your 6-series headphones shine?

A tube OTL amp is usually happier around 300 ohms and up. You can look at the specs for your amp.
 
Sep 24, 2020 at 4:13 PM Post #56 of 2,621
Sep 24, 2020 at 4:36 PM Post #57 of 2,621
My audio setup from 8 years ago (HD 598 + Fiio E10K) served me well so far.
With my HD 598 needing ear pads replacement (which is never in stock in Canadian Sennheiser website lol), I have decided to upgrade.

After quite a bit of research, I was settled on getting following
HD 58x - all rounder
AKG 361 - closed back
HE-400i 2020 - try planer at cheap price, looks to have better headband than 4XX
TYGR 300R - actually would prefer this over HE-400i 2020 and use it for gaming but can't get it easily in Canada
Liquid Spark - cheaper in Canada than JS Atom / Shiit Heresy
Topping D10S - only if I am not satisfied with E10K just as DAC or I can find a great deal

And was waiting for Black Friday for a good deal.

However, with this release, maybe I will change my plan and get 560s instead of 58x. At $300 CAD, probably will be more expansive than 58X during Black Friday/Cyber Monday but,
1. Don't have to worry about having to ship things back to U.S. for warranty
2. I won't necessary need to upgrade Amp right away since both AKG 361 and HD 560s should be fine with E10K

I wonder if HD 560s will soon be available on Amazon.ca instead of just Sennheiser Canada.
 
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Sep 24, 2020 at 4:40 PM Post #58 of 2,621
I wonder if HD 560s will be soon available on Amazon.ca instead of just Sennheiser Canada.

Why feed the monster? Buy direct from Sennheiser. They will ship as quickly as the product is in stock and you have the 60-day return guarantee. It takes stepping outside of one's Amazon return comfort zone, but ideologically... why give the middleman a cut. The price in Europe is the same Sennheiser = amazon.de.
 
Sep 24, 2020 at 4:44 PM Post #59 of 2,621
How big are the drivers? Can’t see any info on them.
 
Sep 24, 2020 at 4:46 PM Post #60 of 2,621
Why feed the monster? Buy direct from Sennheiser. They will ship as quickly as the product is in stock and you have the 60-day return guarantee. It takes stepping outside of one's Amazon return comfort zone, but ideologically... why give the middleman a cut. The price in Europe is the same Sennheiser = amazon.de.

I get where you are coming from but you can't deny that Amazon offers good sales.
Now this product probably won't get discounted any time soon because it's new, but HD 599 for example are routinely on sale for CAD $150 or less on Amazon compared to Sennheiser website which has it at CAD $260.

Another example: HD 600 often goes below $400 on Amazon.ca compared to Sennheiser's $520 CAD
 
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