[matthewhypolite]

Well it did get the lowest score, but i did that one from memory because I had to give up on Audeze after my 5th failed lcd3. But don't wanna harp on that here.

How does the LCD4 compare to abyss/utopia?

 

[jlbrach]

LCD-4 is right there with them,every bit as good but again subjective

 

[Shlonglor]

I just got these. Super awesome, but super uncomfortable. My head begins to throb where it hits the band after a short while, and there's nowhere to run.

 

[bigfatpaulie]

LCD-4 is right there with them,every bit as good but again subjective

Minus the obvious lack of build quality... One is leagues behind the other two. Of the Abyss, Utopia and LCD4 on is crafted from what feels like a solid block of metal, the other crafted with carbon fiber and lambskin, and one piece together from parts found in a junk drawer.

 

[matthewhypolite]

I just got these. Super awesome, but super uncomfortable. My head begins to throb where it hits the band after a short while, and there's nowhere to run.

Take a read here:
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/totl-headphones-comparison.856079/#post-13616612

 

[Sonic77]

Rhetorical question, "Why do we have to mod a $4,494-$5495 headphone?" They don't have enough money for R&D to research other materials, like the materials Utopia uses? I bought mine a few weeks ago, sound great, but too small (I have a big head) they need to make the current head band adjustable to larger sizes, I think this is also a common complaint.

 

[mulder01]

A vertical adjustment on the holders that hold the leather headband would be good for the people that have small heads and the headphone sits too low.
And the option to purchase a wider metal frame would suit us melon heads.
Those two things would probably be enough for more people to be able to dial in the perfect fit.
Once you can work out a solution that works for you though, it's so worth the effort.

 

[Joe Skubinski]

Rhetorical question, "Why do we have to mod a $4,494-$5495 headphone?" They don't have enough money for R&D to research other materials, like the materials Utopia uses? I bought mine a few weeks ago, sound great, but too small (I have a big head) they need to make the current head band adjustable to larger sizes, I think this is also a common complaint.

There are a number of ways we can customize the fit for your larger head. PM me...

 

[Shlonglor]

Behold the ingenuity of my new "mod"!

Materials:
1 knife
1 the spongy material holding the cables that came with the Abyss box

Instructions:
Cut the ****ing sponge intro a thin strip
Place it under the headband of your $4500 headphones

The sponge slightly distributes the weight so that the headphones no longer press on just the one point of your skull, preventing you from wishing you were dead after 15 minutes of use and somewhat mitigating the feeling of being stupid for spending so much money on a pair of headphones that sound great but only for the two-three tracks you can suffer them for.

 

[mulder01]

lol maybe you should hit Joe up on his offer... He is the man to talk to about your Abyss - I can't fault the customer service that accompanies these headphones.

Failing that, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, for like the 5th time in this thread I will suggest using some cable ties or velcro to suspend the headband in a more... head-following arch... This is the only photo I can find of when I did it to mine.

 

[Sonic77]

Behold the ingenuity of my new "mod"!

Materials:
1 knife
1 the spongy material holding the cables that came with the Abyss box

Instructions:
Cut the ****ing sponge intro a thin strip
Place it under the headband of your $4500 headphones

The sponge slightly distributes the weight so that the headphones no longer press on just the one point of your skull, preventing you from wishing you were dead after 15 minutes of use and somewhat mitigating the feeling of being stupid for spending so much money on a pair of headphones that sound great but only for the two-three tracks you can suffer them for.

Hahahahaha
We are in the iron vice grip of a 50,000 lbs per sq inch of pressure squeezing our brains out device to get 10 min of sonic bliss, which we happily paid $8 million dollars for! Woo!

Help me Joe, how do I get these things to ease off me?

 

[Stereolab42]

I just heard the Utopia vs Abyss Phi, Hifiman Susvara, and a few others... out of all non-Abyss headphones I've heard it comes closest to matching the power and live-music feel of the Abyss. An excellent option for someone who wants a much more sensitive and portable headphone that can stand up to the Abyss.

 

[Leotis]

Need a super genius to figure out how to achieve the physical effect of stable ear cup orientation with minimal pressure to get the Abyss sonics... but comfortable and easy fit.
What about conventional headphone design (swivel in all directions and adjust up and down) but put small vents around periphery of ear cup?
If I have earpieces clamped tightly and insert a finger between ear cup and head it provides a small vent and the sonics approach what I get with ear cup minimal contact.

 

[LaCuffia]

I am genuinely curious about how the Abyss sounds, as I am sure it's extremely unique and of supreme quality, but all of these posts regarding fit and comfort are kind of funny. It seems like users are talking about trying to balance the Brooklyn bridge on their heads. So sitting upright with a headphone would be annoying? Never heard that before.

 

[Leotis]

So why do you suppose everyone puts up with the ergonomic challenges, not to mention the price of the Abyss???
Hint: Maybe it's because the Abyss sound quality smokes everything else out there. (Including the Utopia IMO. Closed in sound stage is a deal breaker for me.)
Skubinski is going to have to come up with something on the ergonomics.