The Hifiman RE2000 - a high end dynamic IEM
Jun 17, 2018 at 4:56 PM Post #361 of 627
Sorry the delay, I forgot to answer, and I was trying to find a picture to explain why was painful. Crus of helix seems to be the problem.

In the end, I returned the earphones and got one InEar Prophile 8.
The RE2000 couldn't fit in my ear in any way, with any tips. It's really a problem with the size of the earphones.

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At least I hope that now you found excellent comfort with your new IEMs :)

I can't help more with comfort, each ear is different and everyone has a different anatomy, it is unavoidable that some ears will fiind better comfort with certain IEMs... At any rate, as long as now you're happy, I am happy for you :)
 
Jun 22, 2018 at 5:55 PM Post #363 of 627
Been a little over a year since the RE2000 was released and something tells me it is not selling very well.



That's strange.

Let's hope they will pick up on selling numbers at this price though.

Is that seller verified or original? I am curious because it might be something like a counterfeit, like there are lots of counterfeit IE800 on the market (?)
 
Jun 22, 2018 at 6:25 PM Post #365 of 627
Legit seller, never heard of RE2000 fakes.

Welp, that's interesting.

Let's hope that people will get them more now that they are more affordable :)

I think this is a pretty fair price now, considering their sound, I think that they are a pretty good value now. They still need Spinfit tips if you ask me though, those help with the comfort quite a bit.
 
Jun 22, 2018 at 7:22 PM Post #367 of 627
Personally I hope that if they have a revision, they keep the sound quality and change the shell. Top tier IEM should have a universal fit - and there are no excuses for sharp edges. That's simply poor design.
 
Jun 22, 2018 at 7:55 PM Post #368 of 627
I'm still really interested in these IEM's. I just purchased a pair of the CA Atlas, but would love to hear these someday. I asked my local dealer about them, and supposedly the distributor isn't bringing any into Canada which is a real shame.

Does anyone know if there are ever any loaner tours or similar for the RE2000?
 
Jun 22, 2018 at 8:00 PM Post #369 of 627
I'm still really interested in these IEM's. I just purchased a pair of the CA Atlas, but would love to hear these someday. I asked my local dealer about them, and supposedly the distributor isn't bringing any into Canada which is a real shame.

Does anyone know if there are ever any loaner tours or similar for the RE2000?

I might be able to help out :) PM incoming.
 
Jul 2, 2018 at 2:31 PM Post #370 of 627
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Thanks to a very very very kind fellow head-fi’er, I have a pair of RE2000 here to try out/test for a little while. According to my local dealer, the Canadian distributor for Hifiman has decided not to import any RE2000 to Canada, so there was nowhere I could try these out locally. Having had to sell basically all of my headphone collection, the plan was to downsize to one or two good IEMs. The Campfire Audio Atlas was first up, and they are superb, I really love them. I could live with them quite happily as my only IEMs, but having had such a good sonic experience with the Susvara, I couldn’t help but be curious about the RE2000, the Susvaras top of the line IEM counterpart. Next thing I know I get a PM offering me a chance to try the RE2000 out for a week or two, wow!

These are first impressions, like I usually try to share. I find the first little bit of listening to a new pair of headphones/IEMs a good indicator of whether I will enjoy them or not. I notice the “big” things, and then over time I notice the more subtle things that either annoy me, or make the headphones/IEMs special to me.

So. Similar to the Susvara, the RE2000 are too expensive, in my humble opinion, regardless of how they sound. Add the worries about Hifimans build quality and quality of materials, and you definitely want to give the IEMs a listen and look over before purchasing a pair. Thankfully I have been given that chance. In the case of the Susvara, the sound was good enough to help me overlook the last 5-10% of attention to detail and quality of materials, and you know what? I think the RE2000 might have managed to do the same.

The build quality is actually pretty solid compared to some of the other stuff I have seen from Hifiman. Its like they are trying (at least with their recent TOTL items,) but just falling short of the mark. These do not have the quality feel and sturdiness of the Campfire Atlas I have here. However, they are pretty decent. Not $2000USD decent, but good enough.

These can be had new for around $1300USD if you look hard enough, pretty much the same as the Campfire Atlas. Would I pay $2000USD for them? No. Would I pay $1300USD for them? From the sonic impressions so far, I actually think I might.

These sound….really good.

I’ll compare these to the Atlas as thats what I have on hand and have been listening to lately. All of these impressions are using the stock medium double flange tips. I thought that would be a good place to start. I’m going to try my single flange wide bore and Campfire marshmallow foams as well, but right now, stock seemed to be the way to go for initial impressions.

Bass: There is less quantity of bass than the Atlas, that is for sure. The bass seems tighter, and less “round” for lack of a better description. It extends nicely to my ears. I listen to a lot of weird electronica with complex bass patterns going on, and these aren’t struggling with that at all. Great definition. I like a little bit more bass than these present in stock form, and I think that might be emphasised due to listening to the Atlas for the last week or two. I tried boosting up the bass a few db from 80hz on down, and the RE2000 took it well. No signs of distortion. It really filled out the sound, making it more to my preference. I think I have to give the edge to the Atlas in the bass department, but with a tiny EQ bump, the RE2000 is no slouch.

Mids: Incoming audiophile terms. Smooth? Creamy? Liquid? Whatever they are, they are very nice. I think these are more pleasing to my ears than the Atlas. They aren’t overly warm, but they are more present than the mids on the Atlas. Vocals are presented really well, a tiny bit better than the Atlas. More forward, especially male vocals.

Treble: Less sibilant than the Atlas, but slightly more raspy. I think this is a trade off and everyone will be different in what they prefer. I prefer the RE2000’s treble so far. The Atlas is a little bit peaky, but I tried bringing between 6-7khz down a few db with the Atlas, and so far, that has chilled them out a bit, and makes them an easier listen, to my ears anyway. I’d say the Atlas and RE2000 are about equal in terms of treble quality, they both have little bits wrong, and little bits right. Its just a trade off. As always, if looking to purchase either, try to give them both a try.

Soundstage: RE2000 wins, or at least its more to my preference. It is wider, taller, more spacious sounding. They have an airiness to the treble especially that the Atlas doesn’t have. However, the Atlas sound fuller, bigger (which is weird as the soundstage isn’t as wide as the RE2000,) more enveloping.

Detail: I’d say they are pretty much equal in terms of detail and definition, with the Atlas having the edge in the bass region, but the RE2000 having the edge in the mids and treble. There isn’t much in it, and I think it will depend on your preferences as to which you would like more.

Build Quality: Atlas wins, no question about it. RE2000 is better than I thought it would be, but the Atlas certainly has the upper hand here. Both in build quality and the materials used.

Comfort: Atlas wins again, they are so comfortable, especially worn down vs. Over the ear. The RE2000 is comfortable, but there are a few edges that could be better, or rounder, or something? They just aren’t as comfortable as the Atlas. I think this will depend on your ears, as if you have bigger ears, I doubt you will have a problem. I have read of some people with small ears that really struggled with the RE2000, and I can totally understand that. Again, give them both a try if you can. Everyones ears are different, so what works with for me might not for you.

I should note, the Atlas is easier to drive, I’m a few volume notches up with the RE2000 over where I usually listen with the Atlas. Its not to the point where I think these need a fat amp, but its something to consider. Most DAPs should drive the RE2000 just fine, and they are ok off an iPhone. I am using them with an iFi iDSD BL currently. I will try them with the Chord Mojo later on today.

The RE2000 are a superb sounding IEM so far. Wide, and spacious. Similar to the Atlas, they aren’t a neutral earphone. Bit of a bass boost, sparkly treble, tiny bit of recession in the mids. They are a tiny bit more balanced sounding than the Atlas. However, I think they are both quite similar in terms of sound signature. Really, I think it will depend on the listener as to which they would prefer. The Atlas is certainly more comfortable, and has better build quality. With all that being said, I’m really looking forward to continuing to listen to these IEMs. Will I buy a pair? Having sold pretty much all my headphones, and having my amp and stuff still up for sale, I might. Having the choice between the Atlas and the RE2000 would be really neat and enjoyable, as I don’t have anything else left :frowning2:

All in all, I’m really lucky to have the opportunity to listen to these for a week or two. It really gives me faith in the community, that although we sometimes fight over stuff, there is a kinship present that not all communities have. Be it Can-Jams, loaner tours, friends lending friends gear etc…its really neat. I’ve met some great people through headphones and this hobby, and the fact someone is trusting me to take care of their $2000USD IEMs for a couple weeks is really cool.
 
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Jul 3, 2018 at 1:16 PM Post #371 of 627
OK so. I've been playing around with tips, and these are...weird. I thought I would end up liking the single flange wide bore silicon tips, like I do with the Atlas. They RUINED the sound. I couldn't even get a seal. No bass. Currawong was right in his review, these are very sensitive to tip changes. I've actually been enjoying the Campfire Audio small marshmallow tips, but even the smalls are a bit big for my right ear. I think if I buy a pair of these, I will try to get some small size comply tips to try out. The stock double flange tips are giving me the best comfort so far, and sound.

Comfort: Not so good to be honest, but I think this might be the cable, more than the earphones themselves. The tiny bit where the cable exits the connector exits is sorta..sharp? It digs into my ear. I reckon a well designed aftermarket cable with strain relief could solve this, but I could be wrong. I also wonder how an aftermarket cable would fit in the ear with the earphone inserted, but I have seen others with aftermarket cables, so it must be possible.

The cable is kinda lacklustre to be honest, especially for the price. These definitely deserve a cable upgrade, not for sound quality, just for longevity and comfort.

The RE2000 are still sounding fantastic however :)
 
Jul 5, 2018 at 8:34 PM Post #372 of 627
Welp. I have ended up enjoying these so much that I have decided to join the club, and have bought a pair. I got a pretty great deal, and having sold all my other gear pretty much, I was just able to afford them. I can't wait to get them in!

EDIT: Can also confirm these are great with my Chord Mojo :)
 
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Jul 6, 2018 at 8:19 PM Post #374 of 627

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