[JaZZ]

 

  Ah, I suspected that you were addressing the square waves. No, these won't be better with empty filter tubes. The reason for the crippled square-wave responses is simple: The three-way system makes for an uneven phase response (group delay), as in multi-way speakers – where it is considered inaudible. The impulse response of the single drivers is supposedly excellent – as I hear it.

You see that's weird, becauase the SE535 have a three-way system as well, but Shure managed to tweak and engineer them to have an ABSURDLY GOOD-LOOKING square-wave response!

 
The SE535 is a two-way system with three drivers, the SE846 is a three-way system with four drivers. Given the SE535's much higher crossover frequency, group delay will be virtually insignificant.

 

[goodyfresh]

   
The SE535 is a two-way system with three drivers, the SE846 is a three-way system with four drivers. Given the SE535's much higher crossover frequency, group delay will be virtually insignificant.

Ahhhh, I was mistaken about the difference, thanks for clarifying that for me!

 

[shuto77]

Hey, has anyone tried to drive a Fostex th600 with the x3ii?

I'm considering a good portable amp if I grab that can.

 

[Headphone4Life]

Hey, has anyone tried to drive a Fostex th600 with the x3ii?

I'm considering a good portable amp if I grab that can.

The 3II will have no problem driving the th600. It drives my 300 ohm HD600 very good, the highest I go on volume is like 85 to 90 and I listen to music loud, oh and the volume goes to 120.

 

[beankurt]

Is it just me that feels that an firmware update for X3ii is kinda of overdue? 

 

[bruce1967]

  Is it just me that feels that an firmware update for X3ii is kinda of overdue? 

I feel too that it's time for an official firmware update.

 

[Tober138]

I feel too that it's time for an official firmware update.

Not really sure what such an upgrade would consist of. I'm guessing Fiio has not put a lot of work into the X3 FW, they're probably more focused on the X7 at this point.

 

[ngs428]

Not really sure what such an upgrade would consist of. I'm guessing Fiio has not put a lot of work into the X3 FW, they're probably more focused on the X7 at this point.

Hopefully something from this thread.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/764911/x3ii-next-firmware-bug-improvements-wish-list

 

[Mr Trev]

  Is it just me that feels that an firmware update for X3ii is kinda of overdue? 

Welcome to the firmware waiting game

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Been playing myself since the 1st gen. Always good to have more players

 

[BudC]

Regarding firmware updates, my first Fiio product and probably my last considering their lack of firmware support. If users can do firmware mods in a very timely manner  then Fiio, undoubtedly, could produce timely updates. But why bother after they have our money.

 

[Brooko]

  Regarding firmware updates, my first Fiio product and probably my last considering their lack of firmware support. If users can do firmware mods in a very timely manner  then Fiio, undoubtedly, could produce timely updates. But why bother after they have our money.

 
Users are modding just the images - nothing else - so poor comparison. Fiio actually provided plenty of updates in the early life of most of their players - as they've matured (and unfortunately as they've increased their product lines) those updates haven't been as frequent.. They don't have the resources of Apple or bigger players.
 
On the flip side - you get great sounding high-res players at very reasonable pricing.
 
Your alternative is Apple (for GUI) and add an amp + pay as much as you can for highest storage possibility, or go Android and you'll have similar issues (minus the storage).  Neither have the hardware of the Fiio (amp and dac).  Or pony up for some A&K gear (but you'll need to increase your budget hugely).
 
By all means don't buy another Fiio if some of the missing features are deal breakers.  Ultimately though - critiquing them and stating you won't buy another one - while expecting them to have top notch UI + top notch sound + staying in a "budget" price bracket is probably expecting a bit much.
 
They aren't perfect.  Nothing is though.

 

[KC33]

Mine works fine with 1.1, I don't know if I'd even bother installing new FW unless it was something earth shattering.

 

[goodyfresh]

   
Users are modding just the images - nothing else - so poor comparison. Fiio actually provided plenty of updates in the early life of most of their players - as they've matured (and unfortunately as they've increased their product lines) those updates haven't been as frequent.. They don't have the resources of Apple or bigger players.
 
On the flip side - you get great sounding high-res players at very reasonable pricing.
 
Your alternative is Apple (for GUI) and add an amp + pay as much as you can for highest storage possibility, or go Android and you'll have similar issues (minus the storage).  Neither have the hardware of the Fiio (amp and dac).  Or pony up for some A&K gear (but you'll need to increase your budget hugely).
 
By all means don't buy another Fiio if some of the missing features are deal breakers.  Ultimately though - critiquing them and stating you won't buy another one - while expecting them to have top notch UI + top notch sound + staying in a "budget" price bracket is probably expecting a bit much.
 
They aren't perfect.  Nothing is though.

HiFiMan players are another good option alternative option aside from the A&K stuff, but, again, much more expensive.

 

[BudC]

Brooko, for the cost of x3 (2) to be
unreadable outside in the daylight is totally unacceptable. I'm sorry if you dont agree with my opinion, I still have a right to express it. Fanboys will always defend Fiio even when obvious flaws are exposed.

 

[Brooko]

I'm not a fanboi (but thanks for the label)
 
Name me another $200 player with similar hardware and features without the flaws?  Perspective.  I'm just supplying some.  Last time I checked, I'm able to put my opinion in also - or did you have the monopoly on that