The FiiO X3 2nd gen (ex X3K, X3II) Thread : 192K/24B, CS4398,Native DSD, USB DAC with LO and inline remote

[originalsnuffy]

Kind of wondering if the x3 gen one and gen two units are going to see some firmware loving anytime soon.

 

[despuit]

Hey sorry, don';t meant to post so much today :/ uhm so using this dac on mid level computer speaker system is no edifier but altec. These things were dying before, but this dac maxes her out at such a low level. Speaker level 100% with a bass cap of 25% 120 DAC amp 32 volume so about 50% output and any more will destroy her I heard it popping and cracking lol. But the actual speakers omg amazing sound, the bass at this level is great don't even need the modded cone. Is just quiet but it is really is such a tight tight sound. I am really impressed by the X3II for speakers, headphones meh maybe I bought the wrong headphones but loving it with speakers. A lot more open, not much more detail maybe even less as they're cheap but is such a wide soundstage. That;s what I miss from headphones it is too personal (is great just different), I like distant sound. But whatever is another opinion ciao - DES.
 
 
UPDATE:

ABHHAHAAH didn;t have the plug in all the way they go way louder, but you can hear the plate reacting adversely is a disgusting sound like someone is smashing cardboard :/ 32 volume is now retardedly loud I feel deaf but it is so clear still ahahah I approve of this sound, I am going to back in my home in a couple weeks let see how this fars against denon receiver with hifi speakers  
 
Ipdate 2L:

You know the connections are really secure, I've thrown previous players into the pool as they slipped out. This is tight, and the detail is a lot more noticeable on speakers with regards to timing. Listening to broadway plays, and I can notice the pauses between words. Other details are debatable like instrument separation, brightness, granular texture (that personal signature) but it is amazing in its own way. Like I said can;t wait to test it on a real system.  All so vocal reproduction is a lot more accurate, if I am outside with spekers onOI  can no tell the difference of a real perosn tallkgin.

 

[x RELIC x]

OOOOOOOOH, that is so exciting!  It's going to use dual Sabre ES9018 chips, correct?  And will have wi-fi access and a higher-res screen and stuff?  At least that's what I think I remember reading before.  Honestly that's a bit unnecessary for me though, I have no desire for wifi in my music player, so I kind of wish it wasn't going to have that. . .I have a feeling that if it didn't have the wi-fi and such an incredibly nice display for a DAP, you guys would be able to make it a bit cheaper


Yeah it's going to be waaay more expensive than the X3ii, but I might just HAVE to upgrade to it someday   It sounds like it'll be such a nice device.

Sorry, this is misinformation. The X7 will use a single desktop version ESS9018 32 DAC with eight channels built in (2x superior to the portable 2ch K2M version in a dual configuration).

Dude shhhh lol you no give ideas xD, wi-fi may not be needed but at least we can use tidal properly.All so for the display size I think the quality aspect is a good thing, they're about creating well built products. I think the price was 1k or something which really isn't expensive at all. It is very cheap considering the specifications, I was looking at A&K for awhile for a next big upgrade but now price/spec wise the X7 blows it out of the water. My only question would be how DSD is decoded, esp since they're going to support the newer high capacity sd cards we can store more high-res files. 


Other than that if you don't need the features meet em' half way with x5II, but the thing there is from my observations is that is more detailed prone and X3II is smoother so is more of personal choice. Then the x7 is A. cause you can or B. Cause you believe those features are an asset not a burden .... Personally I would have bought X5II instead if I knew that then. Any ways super excited to see what comes after the X7 and yes obviously the II but I mean for third gen. Was the X1 Phased out now? Will X3 be phased out? Will only X5 be third gen? How about the X9 will it be able to play 64 bit media, and do the moon walk for us?

The chip handles DSD natively and I'm sure FiiO will implement it well. They are working very hard to make sure this is a SOLID Android based player, and for only $699 USD.

With that said, this is an X3ii thread so if you guys want to discuss the X7, or get correct info about the device you can always head over to the X7 thread. :wink_face:

 

[despuit]

Sorry, this is misinformation. The X7 will use a single desktop version ESS9018 32 DAC with eight channels built in (2x superior to the portable 2ch K2M version in a dual configuration).
The chip handles DSD natively and I'm sure FiiO will implement it well. They are working very hard to make sure this is a SOLID Android based player, and for only $699 USD.

With that said, this is an X3ii thread so if you guys want to discuss the X7, or get correct info about the device you can always head over to the X7 thread.

Thanks man, btw I am Canadian so is about 919  

 

[x RELIC x]

Canadian also so I hear ya! Eh!

 

[yoyorast10]

One bug I found, if you leave a song paused for like +10 minutes, and then come back and unpause, there's a buzzing sound and the X3 won't react at all, until you pull out the headphones, and then it willl work again.

 

[goodyfresh]

  One bug I found, if you leave a song paused for like +10 minutes, and then come back and unpause, there's a buzzing sound and the X3 won't react at all, until you pull out the headphones, and then it willl work again.

Hmmmm. . .neer once had that issue with mine. . .strange!  Maybe there's some defective wiring in yours, which would stink. . .you could always write to Fiio about it and see what they say, I hear they have pretty good customer service.

 

[yoyorast10]

 
Hmmmm. . .neer once had that issue with mine. . .strange!  Maybe there's some defective wiring in yours, which would stink. . .you could always write to Fiio about it and see what they say, I hear they have pretty good customer service.

 
Would stink indeed, hope there's nothing wrong with my x3. Sent them an email.

 

[goodyfresh]

   
Would stink indeed, hope there's nothing wrong with my x3. Sent them an email.

Let us know what you end up hearing back from them!  I'm very curious, myself, as to what may be causing such a strange issue

 

[salla45]

I am seeking a simple solution to attenuate the line-out level without degrading the signal (or as little as poss).
 
I have the FIIO X3ii and find the Line out sound's quite noticeably clearer, less "muddy", than the variable out. I got an E12 to try and make use of the lineout but it's still muddying the sound.
 
I can enjoy the lineout when using it as a DAC, via pc, as I can attenuate using Foobar volume control, of course.
 
I would like to find a simple solution to be able to use the line out on the go, but not via an amp, just to attenuate the output with minimal circuitry.
 
Any ideas?

 

[410142]

  I am seeking a simple solution to attenuate the line-out level without degrading the signal (or as little as poss).
 
I have the FIIO X3ii and find the Line out sound's quite noticeably clearer, less "muddy", than the variable out. I got an E12 to try and make use of the lineout but it's still muddying the sound.
 
I can enjoy the lineout when using it as a DAC, via pc, as I can attenuate using Foobar volume control, of course.
 
I would like to find a simple solution to be able to use the line out on the go, but not via an amp, just to attenuate the output with minimal circuitry.
 
Any ideas?

 
Line outs are designed to drive line inputs, which are typically 10k-ohm (or higher) loads. You risk overloading the line out circuitry or even effectively shorting it if you use a load with low enough impedance. The "minimal circuitry" you are looking for is the amplifier. You can try making your own if you have the time, equipment, and skills. If you're driving low-impedance, current-hungry loads, you need a current amplifier. Any decent consumer amplifier would have both current- and voltage-amplifying stages.
 
What headphones are you using with the X3?

 

[salla45]

   
Line outs are designed to drive line inputs, which are typically 10k-ohm (or higher) loads. You risk overloading the line out circuitry or even effectively shorting it if you use a load with low enough impedance. The "minimal circuitry" you are looking for is the amplifier. You can try making your own if you have the time, equipment, and skills. If you're driving low-impedance, current-hungry loads, you need a current amplifier. Any decent consumer amplifier would have both current- and voltage-amplifying stages.
 
What headphones are you using with the X3?

Thanks for reply.
 
Im running the Grado GR10's and also on occasion HD600's but the GR10's are noticeably cleaner, and critical of changes in equipment. I am just finding the sound I am getting from the line out so much cleaner, brighter, the old "veil has been lifted" cliché. 
 
 
Maybe I should be seeking a better quality headphone amp in that case?

 

[Headphone4Life]

Using the line out connected to my Schiit Vali with my Sony Z7 sounds cleaner than just using headphone out, its not a night and day difference but noticeable. The treble has more sparkle and air and the sub-bass sounds better as well. Also I think the soundstage is a bit more open with larger sound.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Have a silly question regarding the volume setting on the X3ii, what volumes are you guys listening on on low gain? I'm recovering from an infection at the moment and ears are all kinds of stuffed up, would rather not damage my ears by listening at too high a volume.
 
I'm using the Unique Melody Mentor's which have an impedance of 20 ohm, have set the volume to 25 to be safe, is that around what everyone else is using?

 

[CarlitoSyrichta]

60-70 on low gain with my pistons 2.1