May 29, 2023 at 7:03 AM Post #47 of 191
Erzetich deimos already sold many years. The june 2023 release is a new design to suit the newer releases.
Thanks for the update and reflected this on the list.
 
May 29, 2023 at 3:55 PM Post #49 of 191
May 29, 2023 at 5:47 PM Post #52 of 191
The hype around Cen. Grand is crazy. Really not sure if it's genuine. The brand seems to have come from nowhere.

They're new, but they know what they're doing and they use nice output devices in their amps ;)
 
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May 29, 2023 at 8:09 PM Post #53 of 191
How about:
Fiio K9
Looks interesting, but I'm not sure where it can be purchased in the US. (correction looks like Amazon has it)
I've wrestled with putting amps like the Fiio K9, Topping A90D, Schiit Ragnarok, etc. on this list. While they are certainly TOTL in their respective product offerings and completely valid "end-game" amps for many people, I feel like they don't compete with the amps on the current list. I'm definitely up for hearing otherwise tho. Maybe members of the forum can help to share reasoning fore or against them...
 
May 29, 2023 at 8:12 PM Post #54 of 191
May 29, 2023 at 8:19 PM Post #55 of 191
The endgame amp for me is Cavalli Audio Liquid Gold. A true masterpiece.
Agree and I've lusted over one since joining the forums. However, as it is no longer available retail and pretty hard to find even second-hand (I wouldn't blame current owners for wanting to keep it for a lifetime), it pains me to leave it off the list.

Still thanks for sharing and keep them coming!
 
May 30, 2023 at 2:04 PM Post #56 of 191
Agree and I've lusted over one since joining the forums. However, as it is no longer available retail and pretty hard to find even second-hand (I wouldn't blame current owners for wanting to keep it for a lifetime), it pains me to leave it off the list.

Still thanks for sharing and keep them coming!
It is not that had to buy a used one to be honest, there has been one demo sitting for years unsold (maybe sold now) and there are also some used ones in the market sitting for months.
LAu is a great amp nevertheless, especially with planars. But it make sense to keep it away from the list, or put it in "discontinued" category if you want to make the list as compressive as it could be.
Or maybe the Monoprice LAuX should be on the "debated" listed.

One amp that nearly no ones talks about on HF but I have owned and loved mine, which should also considered end-game.
It is such a bargain now consider the inflation and exchange rate.
https://harmonydesign.se/produkt/ear-909/

And this
https://www.spirittorino.com/en/products/sigfrid-headphone-speaker-ibrid-amp
 
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May 30, 2023 at 7:34 PM Post #58 of 191
As someone with limited experience with amps, would love to know where something like the Violectric 202/222, or even the Lake People G111 mkii would register in relation to end game...or are we talking totally different league to the previously mentioned.
 
May 30, 2023 at 7:41 PM Post #59 of 191
As someone with limited experience with amps, would love to know where something like the Violectric 202/222, or even the Lake People G111 mkii would register in relation to end game...or are we talking totally different league to the previously mentioned.
The amps that you've mentioned can totally be end-game for someone. Any amp can be end-game, honestly. The amps listed in the OP are at the very summit tho. Aspirational amps that many of us will probably never get to experience!
 
May 30, 2023 at 7:47 PM Post #60 of 191
It is not that had to buy a used one to be honest, there has been one demo sitting for years unsold (maybe sold now) and there are also some used ones in the market sitting for months.
LAu is a great amp nevertheless, especially with planars. But it make sense to keep it away from the list, or put it in "discontinued" category if you want to make the list as compressive as it could be.
Or maybe the Monoprice LAuX should be on the "debated" listed.

One amp that nearly no ones talks about on HF but I have owned and loved mine, which should also considered end-game.
It is such a bargain now consider the inflation and exchange rate.
https://harmonydesign.se/produkt/ear-909/

And this
https://www.spirittorino.com/en/products/sigfrid-headphone-speaker-ibrid-amp
Added and thank you for the recommendations. The Sigfrid looks amazing.
 
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