[Not so fat head]

I think the sale price is too high…. MSRP of $5k for this headphone, are you crazy! What is that?, a 95% markup???

 

[FlacFan]

Can you really trust a brand new account on Reddit made just to state this?

I'm not saying it's not actually Focal saying it, but I don't immediately believe everything I read or hear on the internet, especially when it's so easy to make a fake account on Reddit (or any forum) without any verification.

That is a very valid point. Reddit, Fakebook, Twatter and the like -- I read it (sometimes) and forget about it (99.5% always).

Quite frankly, those who are interested in spending this much $ on a headphone: How about picking up the phone (you know the calling thing) and call Adorama, ask some tough questions and insist on getting the response in an email.

Avoiding the 'too good to be true' should be common knowledge...then again...

Cheers.

 

[antdroid]

A bit odd that a headphones.com rep is in here saying a brand new Reddit account claiming to be Focal is saying they won't honor warranty on a sale product from an official retailer and competitor of theirs.

According to this user, people are price matching with headphones.com.

https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=164850497&postcount=37

Hopefully I dont get in trouble for saying this, but MAP (Minimum Advertised Pricing) is typically a requirement that manufacturers require their resellers to adhere to. That means, they cant publicly advertise prices below whatever sale price the manufacturer's specify. That's why when you see a sale happen on any given store, its the same sale price everywhere else. That's not just an audio industry thing, as you can see these happen at stuff you buy at department stores too on other household items. Anyway, that doesnt necessarily preclude the dealer to give you a better price to their customer base. For example, some dealers will show "CALL FOR PRICING" instead of listing a sale price.

In this case, it seems like Adorama is not meeting their requirement of MAP, and that's why Focal may be upset.

 

[Click]

Hopefully I dont get in trouble for saying this, but MAP (Minimum Advertised Pricing) is typically a requirement that manufacturers require their resellers to adhere to. That means, they cant publicly advertise prices below whatever sale price the manufacturer's specify. That's why when you see a sale happen on any given store, its the same sale price everywhere else. That's not just an audio industry thing, as you can see these happen at stuff you buy at department stores too on other household items. Anyway, that doesnt necessarily preclude the dealer to give you a better price to their customer base. For example, some dealers will show "CALL FOR PRICING" instead of listing a sale price.

In this case, it seems like Adorama is not meeting their requirement of MAP, and that's why Focal may be upset.

Focal can be upset all they want. That doesn't give them the right to cancel the warranty purchased from an authorized dealer.

 

[antdroid]

Focal can be upset all they want. That doesn't give them the right to cancel the warranty purchased from an authorized dealer.

not disagreeing with you here. i think they should still honor warranty, and deal with their conflict with adorama internally.

 

[miketlse]

Hopefully I dont get in trouble for saying this, but MAP (Minimum Advertised Pricing) is typically a requirement that manufacturers require their resellers to adhere to. That means, they cant publicly advertise prices below whatever sale price the manufacturer's specify. That's why when you see a sale happen on any given store, its the same sale price everywhere else. That's not just an audio industry thing, as you can see these happen at stuff you buy at department stores too on other household items. Anyway, that doesnt necessarily preclude the dealer to give you a better price to their customer base. For example, some dealers will show "CALL FOR PRICING" instead of listing a sale price.

In this case, it seems like Adorama is not meeting their requirement of MAP, and that's why Focal may be upset.

I don't think anyone is arguing that Focal should not be upset - rather the argument is that Focal should be 100% transparent, and post their issue on their own head-fi thread.
If they continue to rely on dealers to post about warranties etc, then you need to remember that from a legal viewpoint dealers are never 100% unbiased.
In legal terms they have a 'conflict of interest', because they want to dissuade potential customers from buying from adorama, and instead buy from Headphones.com (the issue is generic but I only use their name because they are the only dealer awake enough to post on this thread).

not disagreeing with you here. i think they should still honor warranty, and deal with their conflict with adorama internally.

I agree with your sentiment. I accept that Focal probably have a conflict with Adorama, but it is in Focals interest to remain on good terms with any customers who bought the headphones from Adorama.

 

[rozunoe]

Seems like that fake Focal Reddit account has now deleted all its messages on the Reddit thread and the account itself as well..

 

[Click]

Seems like that fake Focal Reddit account has now deleted all its messages on the Reddit thread and the account itself as well..

Yup.

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/156ip1f/comment/jt0lewa/

Don't believe a random account made the same day they're to push an agenda.

 

[passie42]

The newly introduced Hidisz MS 3 gets some crazy reviews!
Introduction price is now 30% off (106,02 euro/ 118,- dollar) and extra 5% off with discount code DEALSMS3
3 different nozzles and 9 sets eartips (vocal/balanced/bass) and a extremely nice cable where you can choose between a 2.5/3.5/4.4 mm connector.
I could not help myself and ordered a pair

https://www.hidizs.net/products/hidizs-ms3-2ba-1dd-hybrid-3-drivers-hifi-in-ear-monitors

Even a steal at there normal price (169,- dollar)

 

[xSDMx]

More open box audeze Maxwells available at $249 https://www.ebay.com/itm/175833143866

 

[cpu235]

Sony IER-m7 refurbished $299, one of my personal favorites and at this price this is a really good iem.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275710035779

 

[imackler]

Sony IER-m7 refurbished $299, one of my personal favorites and at this price this is a really good iem.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275710035779

Sold out now. but thanks for posting!

 

[ramkvp]

Sony IER-m7 refurbished $299, one of my personal favorites and at this price this is a really good iem.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275710035779

Isn't that a very good price?

 

[cpu235]

Isn't that a very good price?

Yeah and its out of stock now, I have seen them selling it for quite a while so maybe there are more in the future.

 

[xSDMx]

HD 660S2 back to $499.95 @ World Wide Stereo. They are crushing it with the deals lately, lol.