[chococya96]

  Hey all, I have ordered these as my first pair of premium headphones, but I'm barely getting into the audiophile world. I hear quite often that these require a good amp and was wondering what are the best options for it. To get a good idea I'd prefer suggestions varying by performance (which usually ends up in price ranges). I had my eyes on the Element by JDS labs (not out yet) since it seemed to be a good option for future use should I decide to upgrade//buy another pair of headphones. But if you have a good idea, then be my guest.
 
ps: I have little interest in a price cap, but I don't plan on spending over 400$ on an amp for a 340$ pair of headphones. Don't think I'll go with "the best money can buy" type of thing.
 
edit: they will be used mostly on my computer, usb dac is a must

 
O2+DAC combo and Schiit combo are pretty good choice for K7XX series. Seems like they are the most recommended for these cans.
There's also Matrix M-stage and Audio GD being recommended for these cans as well though I have no experience with them so I can't say much.
 
 
On the related note did you guys burned in K712? If so, how long have you guys burned them in for?

 

[Rico613]

 
On the related note did you guys burned in K712? If so, how long have you guys burned them in for?

40 hrs - 120 hrs.  I didn't clock it, but there was a noticeable improvement somewhere in that range.  You'll probably notice it when it happens. 

 

[Evshrug]

I've actually seen most people recommend tube amps (Little Dot and Garage1217 products), only a couple suggest the O combo and some recommend against the Magni because it's a "hard" sounding amp that emphasizes some of the "bright" traits of the AKGs to be too much. Ember, M-Stage, E09k, and Audio-GD have all been enjoyed among my friends that have tried them. I liked the Schiit Vali more than a little, but long-term I'd hate the ringing.

 

[chococya96]

  40 hrs - 120 hrs.  I didn't clock it, but there was a noticeable improvement somewhere in that range.  You'll probably notice it when it happens. 

 
I see... When I first acquired K712 I was so skeptical of burning it as I even went further to ask one of the representatives from AKG. I remember him/her saying that the membrane material which is used in the current/newer AKG lines is more flexible than in the old days. Hence he/she said it's not necessary to burn K712.
 
Since then I've been using them straight out of the box. Though I'm kind of regretting it right now because I really wanted to know the differences it'd make.

 

[Rico613]

 

  40 hrs - 120 hrs.  I didn't clock it, but there was a noticeable improvement somewhere in that range.  You'll probably notice it when it happens. 

 
I see... When I first acquired K712 I was so skeptical of burning it as I even went further to ask one of the representatives from AKG. I remember him/her saying that the membrane material which is used in the current/newer AKG lines is more flexible than in the old days. Hence he/she said it's not necessary to burn K712.
 
Since then I've been using them straight out of the box. Though I'm kind of regretting it right now because I really wanted to know the differences it'd make.

Company representatives tend to downplay burn-in; for marketing reasons I assume.   A dealer once told me that some rather sophisticated equipment required 600 hrs of burn-in.  The company representative said 200 hrs.  Someone at CableCo said it actually required more like 1,000 hrs.  I found improvements at at about 200, 400, 600, and 800 hrs. 
 
You will likely notice some improvement in SQ as you listen to your k712's.  It's part of the fun of this hobby.
 

 

[chococya96]

 
Company representatives tend to downplay burn-in; for marketing reasons I assume.   A dealer once told me that some rather sophisticated equipment required 600 hrs of burn-in.  The company representative said 200 hrs.  Someone at CableCo said it actually required more like 1,000 hrs.  I found improvements at at about 200, 400, 600, and 800 hrs. 
 
You will likely notice some improvement in SQ as you listen to your k712's.  It's part of the fun of this hobby.
 

 
Ah I see that makes sense.
If I had a chance, I'd definitely try to burn at least 50 hours or so to see if there's any changes.
 
That being said this is off-topic but does it matter if you use lossy or lossless tracks for burn in?

 

[Rico613]

  That being said this is off-topic but does it matter if you use lossy or lossless tracks for burn in?

I'm sure those would work fine . .

 

[dizcotic]

Hey guys, pls help me decide and give me your opinion.
I'm waiting for Audio-GD NFB-11. It will be stock in 2 weeks or more but the shop already have magni/modi 2 uber combo are there any differences that I can notice especially treble/brightness. Should I go for magni/mode 2 uber or just wait for the NFB11.
 
PS. I have been listened to the NFB11 and I quite like it but I never heard the Schiit(s).

 

[raybone0566]

  Hey guys, pls help me decide and give me your opinion.
I'm waiting for Audio-GD NFB-11. It will be stock in 2 weeks or more but the shop already have magni/modi 2 uber combo are there any differences that I can notice especially treble/brightness. Should I go for magni/mode 2 uber or just wait for the NFB11.
 
PS. I have been listened to the NFB11 and I quite like it but I never heard the Schiit(s).

the 712's are fairly easy to drive so either choice should be fine. I can't comment on the magni but I had the modi/vali stack. I thought the vali was a little bright for my taste but still own the modi. very hard to beat at that price. the 712's have paired well with every amp I've heard them on.

 

[dizcotic]

 
the 712's are fairly easy to drive so either choice should be fine. I can't comment on the magni but I had the modi/vali stack. I thought the vali was a little bright for my taste but still own the modi. very hard to beat at that price. the 712's have paired well with every amp I've heard them on.

 
The Schiits are more expansive than the audio gd about 100 usd in my place. So what do you think?

 

[Skipshrike]

I felt that the Schiit Vali played to the K712's strengths. That or it hit my own sweet spot.

 

[musiclife]

  40 hrs - 120 hrs.  I didn't clock it, but there was a noticeable improvement somewhere in that range.  You'll probably notice it when it happens. 

What did you notice? More smooth trebles and deeper bass?

 

[Rico613]

 

  40 hrs - 120 hrs.  I didn't clock it, but there was a noticeable improvement somewhere in that range.  You'll probably notice it when it happens. 

What did you notice? More smooth trebles and deeper bass?

More relaxed, clearer sound with more detail in the lower and bass frequencies than when it was new.  

 

[van nguyen]

Hi, how is the sound of hdp r10+ akg k712? Can the hdp r10 really drive the k712 alone?

 

[cjp29]

O2+DAC combo and Schiit combo are pretty good choice for K7XX series. Seems like they are the most recommended for these cans.
There's also Matrix M-stage and Audio GD being recommended for these cans as well though I have no experience with them so I can't say much.


On the related note did you guys burned in K712? If so, how long have you guys burned them in for?

Thx for the replies guys. I will be burning these a bit (matches and gas on hand ) amps on the way.