[BillsonChang007]

Hey Mad Lust Envy, have you tried rolling the pads on K712 & Annie?

 

[Evshrug]

Q701 pads made very minor changes to the K712, mostly I got the sense that the K712 magnet was producing more heat and the Q701 angled pads were keeping hot air trapped inside the cups more.

Mad hasn't had two AKG headphones at the same time... Well until recently, where he got to demo the K712 and K612 at the same time for a week, but he didn't have any K702 pads to try at that time.

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

don't know why i keep getting double posts

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

I had the Q701 and Annie at the same time.

Q701 pads on the Annie = 99.9% Q701
Annie pads on the Q701 = 99.9% Annie

Tdock had sent me his Q701 to compare. Yes, the pads make a difference. Different enough to know that the K712/Annie pads will make the Q701 a more enjoyable headphone in bass and musicality.

 

[BillsonChang007]

don't know why i keep getting double posts

I get that a lot when my connection is slow or when I clicked "submit" twice by accident

 

[elwappo99]

Hey Mad Lust Envy, have you tried rolling the pads on K712 & Annie?

 
I currently have a Q701, K702 Anniversary (early run), and K702 Anniversary (late run, sounds identical to K712). Putting the "k712" pads on the K702 Anniverdary (early run) yields 100% same result

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Yeah, even without pad rolling, the K712 instantly reminded me of my early run Annie, with the pad change being the biggest difference (early Annie had thinner pads, which made the sound a little more intimate than the K712). I can TOTALLY see a late run Annie that uses the K712 pads sounding near (if not completely) identical as the K712. So it's not farfetched to believe that a Q701 with K712 pads to = near K712, not taking driver variation into account.

I would still recommend an Annie or K712 over the standard 7xx models due to the much better headband. Even the flat K612 headband lacks the comfort of the Annie/K712 headband. You'd end up spending nearly the same amount as an Annie/K712 when swapping 7xx pads and headband. The new K702 + K712 pads would be the cheapest alternative to get the K712 sound with a less comfortable flat headband. It'd make a better choice than K701 or Q701 which still have horrible headband bumps. You'd also would still have standard K702 pads for a dryer, more detail oriented sound.

If I wasn't salivating for an HE-400i, I probably would've tried acquiring a new K702 + K712 pads. Would cost me about $100 less than the K712/Annie for the same-ish sound.

 

[BillsonChang007]

Yeah, even without pad rolling, the K712 instantly reminded me of my early run Annie, with the pad change being the biggest difference (early Annie had thinner pads, which made the sound a little more intimate than the K712). I can TOTALLY see a late run Annie that uses the K712 pads sounding near (if not completely) identical as the K712. So it's not farfetched to believe that a Q701 with K712 pads to = near K712, not taking driver variation into account.

I would still recommend an Annie or K712 over the standard 7xx models due to the much better headband. Even the flat K612 headband lacks the comfort of the Annie/K712 headband. You'd end up spending nearly the same amount as an Annie/K712 when swapping 7xx pads and headband. The new K702 + K712 pads would be the cheapest alternative to get the K712 sound with a less comfortable flat headband. It'd make a better choice than K701 or Q701 which still have horrible headband bumps. You'd also would still have standard K702 pads for a dryer, more detail oriented sound.

If I wasn't salivating for an HE-400i, I probably would've tried acquiring a new K702 + K712 pads. Would cost me about $100 less than the K712/Annie for the same-ish sound.

 

   
I currently have a Q701, K702 Anniversary (early run), and K702 Anniversary (late run, sounds identical to K712). Putting the "k712" pads on the K702 Anniverdary (early run) yields 100% same result

Thanks for the info! How late is considered late production for Annie though? @.@ Mine is 00285x 

 

[elwappo99]

   
Thanks for the info! How late is considered late production for Annie though? @.@ Mine is 00285x 

 
Off the top of my head it's in the 0028xx range

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Billison, I'm sure you're early run (mine was in the 700s and it definitely had the flatter pads). I'm sure all you need is to buy the K712 pads to make yours sound near identical to the late run Annies and K712. You're trading off a richer, more intimate mids, smoother treble for more spaciousness and treble clarity. Bass sounds just like the Annies.

 

[BillsonChang007]

Billison, I'm sure you're early run (mine was in the 700s and it definitely had the flatter pads). I'm sure all you need is to buy the K712 pads to make yours sound near identical to the late run Annies and K712. You're trading off a richer, more intimate mids, smoother treble for more spaciousness and treble clarity. Bass sounds just like the Annies.

alright thanks for the info! So the smaller the number, the later the production? how much are those pads? heard they are not cheap

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Umm, no. The HIGHER the number. Just saying you seem to have an older run, and despite mine being high 700s, is still an early run.

edit: Oh, sorry I thought yours was 285. You're in the 2000s... hmm... maybe yours uses the K712 pads already.

Take a pic of your pad's interior. The newer ones are like walls. The older ones are more rounded.

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

I believe Chico posted this:




The differences are obvious. Shouldn't take long to see which pads your Annie is using. The later Annies use the same K712 pads, not the rounded/flatter Annie pads.

Like, I would love to have an Annie over the K712 color scheme, but I don't wanna play the serial# lottery and lose, and then have to pay for K712 pads.

 

[BillsonChang007]

It's easy to tell if you have both but I am having difficulty to identify mine D: will take a picture soon hehe

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

I didn't have both at the same time and it was still easy to identify. The Annie pads are fatter and more rounded, while the K712 pads are taller and thinner, with the inner sides sticking up like walls. Don't know how anyone could confuse the two.