J Mirra
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Just bought a second pair, to much of a deal not to have two of these bad boy's. They are just perfect for me and my set up
Now you are a proper Pro 82 owner!Just bought a second pair, to much of a deal not to have two of these bad boy's. They are just perfect for me and my set up
I think it's best to compare Pro 82 with much pricier headphones. I don't think Pro 82 is the right headphone for people looking to upgrade from a sub-100$ headphone.
Usually these people simply won't have good enough equipment to fully uncover and appreciate Pro 82's abilities.
Pro 82 isn't a "beginner's" headphone.
Pro 82 is for people that are used to driving $500+ or $1000+ headphones with similarly priced (or even more expensive) DACs and amps.
They are the ones that can fully appreciate its greatness.
Pro 82 isn't a "beginner's" headphone.
Pro 82 is for people that are used to driving $500+ or $1000+ headphones with similarly priced (or even more expensive) DACs and amps.
They are the ones that can fully appreciate its greatness.
You don't need to experience $500+/$1000+ headphones/DACs/amps to ENJOY Pro 82, but you need it to FULLY APPRECIATE Pro 82.Well, I don't have any headphones that cost more than $500 (the most expensive I have cost me right at $500 before tax), and I certainly don't have any DACs or amps that cost even half that.
Still, I suspect I my humble DACs and amps, which to my ears are good enough to drive my mid-fi 'phones, will be sufficient to drive the Pro 82 enough to compare them to my mid-fi headphones.
Do you really think the bar has to be that high? $500 to $1000+ headphones and similarly priced (or more expensive!) DACS and amps?
However, sometimes the most important part choosing the right DAC/Amp for a headphone is synergy - just ask any HD800 owner
SMSL Idea + O2 have crazy synergy with Pro 82.
Now while O2 is a no-brainer - it is the best amplifier I have, edging out even HA-2, SMSL Idea is far from being the best DAC I own.
In fact, it's not even a DAC at all - there is no LO. I have many much better and much more expensive DACs - HA-2, HA-2SE, GO V2, GO 1000, NFB.11-32 etc.
I even prefer the 9$ EL-D01 as a DAC over Idea with some headphones.
Idea as a standalone DAC/Amp, is too warm, doesn't have the best bass control and the soundstage is somewhat narrow (it's great for its price, these cons are in comparison with the much more expensive DACs I have).
But it's different with Pro 82.
Double amping Idea with O2 adds just a little hint of warmth, that results in perfect tonality for vocals.
And O2 completely resolves the bass control and soundstage issues.
The resulting sound is very dynamic and lively, almost as dynamic and lively as TH900MK2 and Elear (these are the 2 most dynamic/lively headphones I've heard).
There is a good chance that you will enjoy this synergy too, at a total cost of less than 180$ - it's worth the try!
Just remember to always max the volume of the Idea after connecting it - it is automatically reset to a lower level every time.
O2 sounds better in high gain.
P.S. Can you compare Pro 82 with SRH1540? When I auditioned it, I liked it, but it didn't "wow" me, so I moved on to auditioning other headphones quickly.
Also a comparison with AKG 712 PRO would be appreciated - I bought them about a year ago, but didn't open the box yet. Should I bother?
O2 sounds better in high gain.
I'm putting off purchasing these until the people with thousand dollar heaphones, amps and dac's etc start posting their comparisons. I think I'm going to be waiting for quite some time.
I agree with you BenF. I got my Pro 82 today, and i was listening it in the past 8 hours with different kind of music, and in the first time i wasn't that impressed. But after listening it more, they definitly sound better than my pro 80 that i used. The pro 82 also way, way more comfortable.
I also noticed some song just want to kill me with the high frequencies(beggining of this song for example:
I use a asus xonar dg as a soundcard, not the best, but better than the onboard.
+ Mine is very soft to tuch in the driver area, there is definitly some kind of foam under the textil part.
Under 100$ I'd be hard pressed to find something better.
That reminds me to myself years ago. When I bought the Xonar Essence STX I didn't like it at first because it makes too much treble. Before that I used the SoundBlaster Live! My ears were not used to the clarity that the STX made. After a while my ears and brain become accustomed to the clear sound and can't go back since then.I've listened to this song, and treble was very good.
There are 2 possibilities:
1) You are used to darker, bassier/mid-forward headphones, so a balanced headphone like Pro 82 sounds to aggressive in the treble - your mind hasn't adjusted to hearing the whole spectrum of sound yet.
I went through this transition about 2.5 years ago, took me about 2 months. During this period I kept switching between transparent and mid-forward (my old preference) headphones.
Now, I can't listen to mid-forward headphones for more than 30-60 minutes - they overheat my brain, and I keep thinking about all the sounds I'm missing.
2) As sound cards go, Xonar DG is sure one of the best ones, not a bad place to start.
But it's still a gaming-first product, you can't expect it to sound as well as a decent DAC/Amp combo.
Try SMSL Idea with a B-stock O2 - less than 180$.
If you can't afford both right now, buy Idea first. It will warm up the sound a little bit, easing the transition.
And when you'll add the O2, you'll get the perfect sound out of Pro 82.
And don't forget the tuning foams - they may be perfect for you!
Tuning Pro 82 with easy mods
Your path to better sound now involves improving the rest of your sound chain - make investments there.
You definitely own some DACs I've had my eye on for a while but that I've yet to pull the trigger on, notably the HA-2 (and HA-2SE although I actually don't even know what the differences between those are), and the NFB.11-32, definitely.
Yes, Idea + O2 (1.0x/3.3x in high gain) are the perfect chain for Pro 82.You mention the SMSL Idea -> O2 -> Takstar Pro 82 pairing, would you say that Idea -> O2 (double-amped as you said) is your favorite for the Pro 82, even though you have "better" DACs....
Should definitely be an interesting comparison!Yes, I'll be happy to compare the SRH1540 with the Pro 82. Strangely, even though I long coveted the SRH1540, having shared an office with a co-worker who had the very pair I now have (I bought it from another co-worker he first sold it to), with its ridiculously supreme comfort and its gorgeous looks, since I actually purchased them, I've spent very little head time with them, and they're actually on another co-worker's desk with whom I share my headphone abundance.
I'm definitely curious to see how the soundstage of the Pro 82 compares to the soundstage of the SRH1540, as I think that's one thing I like about the SRH1540 for closed cans -- they exceed my expectations on soundstage.
Sure, AKG 712 Pro will win in soundstage, and Pro 82 in isolation - but everything else should still be a fair fight: comfort, imaging, transparency, timbre, bass/mids/treble etc.Conversely, the AKG 712 Pro's, even though I got them much later (only about 2-3 months ago), they are at my desk at work as my daily drivers, and they are easily one of my favorite pairs. I must say that I would be surprised if I liked the Pro 82 better than the AKG 712, but that's not even a fair fight on my ears since I almost without fail like open headphones over closed headphones, period, and I wouldn't hold that against the Pro 82 as a knock against them since they were designed as closed headphones and offer the benefits therein, isolation particularly.