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Mar 24, 2016 at 9:59 PM Post #47 of 976
I will be putting in my pledge this weekend
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Mar 26, 2016 at 2:42 PM Post #48 of 976
Been lurking on these for a while and just backed the Kickstarter as they look incredible for a bass head. 
 
Curious is the "Taction" technology similar to what Sony uses in their "Sony PS4 Pulse headset" ? (vibrations on the ears)
 
Mar 26, 2016 at 3:24 PM Post #49 of 976
hm, I'm kinda undecided if I should back them. I wouldn't call me a basshead per se but I imagine the tactile feedback to be fun.
Although there are early birds left $300 is a lot for a headphone I have never heard.
So any thoughts on the comfort of the prototype?
Because comfort for me is as important as sound.
 
Mar 26, 2016 at 5:51 PM Post #51 of 976
runningwitit said:
I am considering the signatures. I will only buy them if they are fully balanced with a xlr connection to work with my top notch DAC!
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Then you can put your wallet back in your pocket and step away from this thread.
 
Mar 27, 2016 at 2:20 AM Post #56 of 976
Well I got my pledge in. Dunno if I'll stick with it but I guess I have 1 month to sit on that decision.
 
Mostly got it because I feel this type of tactile feedback is going to be very good with VR.
 
Apr 1, 2016 at 7:59 PM Post #58 of 976
Hi everyone,
 
It's great to see so much discussion on the thread.  I might be able to help with a few of the questions:
 
Balanced inputs?  No, not on on this first release.  The ability to go mobile is valuable to a lot of people, and so we are working to keep the size of our connectors down. We want to make sure that you aren't locked into your desktop or home theater set up.  It can be nice to watch movies on the plane or in bed, or to listen to music off your handset while you're walking.  Balanced input may be something we take on in a later product.
 
Good with VR?  Yes.  I've tried VR demos with our prototypes.  It's a good thing.  The "Sisters" demo is scarier. Janunt's  3D Jack White concert is definitely more immersive. The Kick drum becomes far more real and directional.
 
Sound Signature?  Hawaii Badboy called it "very middle of the road..."  and I think that's a good description of the acoustics.  We're starting with something that has broad acoustic appeal, and then we are trying to improve the expressiveness and fidelity by adding Taction.  Here is the acoustic frequency response of one of our prototypes (figure below).  Acoustically, we are tilted warm, but nothing too out-of-hand.  
 

 
Tactile signature -- that's what's revolutionary.   What I'm showing you (figure below) is the taction frequency response.  It's a measurement of the lateral ear cup motion that's stimulating your skin through the pads.  You can see it's flat over 30-100 Hz, and you can feel it all the way down to 10 Hz.  There has never been anything before that can even remotely approach this performance.  If I were to put up data from some prior commercial attempts to do this (I won't name them) there would be a smallish spike at 50-70 Hz, and nothing perceivable at any of the other bass frequencies.  It's the flatness and power of the taction frquency response that makes the Kannon's different from anything that's come before.  
 

 
Funding and delivery -- The deal with Kickstarter is that credit cards only get charged if enough people sign up for us to make our $75k goal by 4/24.  If we don't make our goal, nobody gets charged anything.  So there is no risk there.  In terms of delivery, both Mike and I have done hardware before. Also, we already have an experienced audio contract manufacturer working with us. So, we feel good about taking things forward for November delivery, provided we get enough orders to make our goal.  We understand that $299 is a lot for cans you may not have gotten to try yet, so we are offering a 15-day money back guarantee.  If you don't like them, at worst you're just out the cost of return shipping.  So that's the story on funding and delivery. If you are thinking of getting behind this, please do it now, because...  
 
There are now fewer than 100 units left at $299.  If you are thinking of getting in on this, it's time.  I believe that folks elsewhere on this thread have posted pointers to the kickstarter page. Something is going to come of this, because we're now over 40% funded. By the statistics of Kickstarter, that means our chances of going to completion are already over 80% (figure below is from a few days ago).     

 
Trying the hardware -- There are a couple of chances coming up to try Kannons in person:
 
  1. April 7-10: Disposable Film Festival, San Francisco.  Taction is sponsoring a master class on sound and vision, and we will have a table in the VIP lounge. If you're going to be there, message me, I'll find a way to get you into the lounge for a demo.
  2. April 15-17: Axpona in Chicago. Taction will be there.  You can try Kannon prototypes at our booth.  
 
Thank you to everyone who has gone to Kickstarter and backed this project already!
 
FightinJim
Founder and CTO, Taction Technology
 
Apr 1, 2016 at 10:22 PM Post #59 of 976
fightinjim said:
  Hi everyone,
 
It's great to see so much discussion on the thread.  I might be able to help with a few of the questions:
 
Balanced inputs?  No, not on on this first release.  The ability to go mobile is valuable to a lot of people, and so we are working to keep the size of our connectors down. We want to make sure that you aren't locked into your desktop or home theater set up.  It can be nice to watch movies on the plane or in bed, or to listen to music off your handset while you're walking.  Balanced input may be something we take on in a later product.
 
Good with VR?  Yes.  I've tried VR demos with our prototypes.  It's a good thing.  The "Sisters" demo is scarier. Janunt's  3D Jack White concert is definitely more immersive. The Kick drum becomes far more real and directional.
 
Sound Signature?  Hawaii Badboy called it "very middle of the road..."  and I think that's a good description of the acoustics.  We're starting with something that has broad acoustic appeal, and then we are trying to improve the expressiveness and fidelity by adding Taction.  Here is the acoustic frequency response of one of our prototypes (figure below).  Acoustically, we are tilted warm, but nothing too out-of-hand.  
 

 
Tactile signature -- that's what's revolutionary.   What I'm showing you (figure below) is the taction frequency response.  It's a measurement of the lateral ear cup motion that's stimulating your skin through the pads.  You can see it's flat over 30-100 Hz, and you can feel it all the way down to 10 Hz.  There has never been anything before that can even remotely approach this performance.  If I were to put up data from some prior commercial attempts to do this (I won't name them) there would be a smallish spike at 50-70 Hz, and nothing perceivable at any of the other bass frequencies.  It's the flatness and power of the taction frquency response that makes the Kannon's different from anything that's come before.  
 

 
Funding and delivery -- The deal with Kickstarter is that credit cards only get charged if enough people sign up for us to make our $75k goal by 4/24.  If we don't make our goal, nobody gets charged anything.  So there is no risk there.  In terms of delivery, both Mike and I have done hardware before. Also, we already have an experienced audio contract manufacturer working with us. So, we feel good about taking things forward for November delivery, provided we get enough orders to make our goal.  We understand that $299 is a lot for cans you may not have gotten to try yet, so we are offering a 15-day money back guarantee.  If you don't like them, at worst you're just out the cost of return shipping.  So that's the story on funding and delivery. If you are thinking of getting behind this, please do it now, because...  
 
There are now fewer than 100 units left at $299.  If you are thinking of getting in on this, it's time.  I believe that folks elsewhere on this thread have posted pointers to the kickstarter page. Something is going to come of this, because we're now over 40% funded. By the statistics of Kickstarter, that means our chances of going to completion are already over 80% (figure below is from a few days ago).     

 
Trying the hardware -- There are a couple of chances coming up to try Kannons in person:
 
  1. April 7-10: Disposable Film Festival, San Francisco.  Taction is sponsoring a master class on sound and vision, and we will have a table in the VIP lounge. If you're going to be there, message me, I'll find a way to get you into the lounge for a demo.
  2. April 15-17: Axpona in Chicago. Taction will be there.  You can try Kannon prototypes at our booth.  
 
Thank you to everyone who has gone to Kickstarter and backed this project already!
 
FightinJim
Founder and CTO, Taction Technology
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Jim,

someone mentioned earlier in the thread that yall were doing an open back version....yet I dont see anywhere pointing to an open back version.
If you do make an open back wont the air be sorta blocked by the tactile deducer,which then limits any soundstage that a "normal" open back would have?

IMO if yall can get that massive bass response+soundstage that could be a dream set of cans!

Care to fill us in on that?
 
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