pataburd
Headphoneus Supremus
Dumb question(s): What do HRTF and TOTL stand for? : )
Dumb question(s): What do HRTF and TOTL stand for? : )
Well the treble is not as bright on the T1s as it is on the D7000s to my ears and in my system
The mid bass not doubt the D7000s are warmer, but the treble on the D7000s can lead one to call them brighter in that range.
I have heard/owned the 880s and they were certainly bright to my ears. But the T1s are slightly on the warm/lush side of neutral on my setup with my ears.
The DT880/'03, while decried as overly bright by many head-fiers, were never bright to my ears on any of my set-ups, nor are or ever were the DT880/600.....
So, I would not characterize the T1 as warm headphones, either.....
... with what seems to be an unusual humming phenomenon with my and USG's T1s and no one else's--which feed a recurring suspicion that my T1 and possibly USG's are somehow defective....
Could be you just do not like them......(referring to Pat)
Upstate just wants a perfected Senn 650 and he should look at the 800.....
I have a hard time believing that Beyer's TOTL $1300 hand-built headphones would have such gross sound defects and mismatch among units. I really do believe this is a matter of preference which relies heavily upon individual HRTF. No matter how cheap, I've never had a defective headphone out of the box and I've owned a quite a few. Beyer in particular has been renowned for its build quality and durability. There are lots of people who aren't impressed by the T1's sound, of which you're one of, and not because the headphone is broken IMO.
Although I remain undecided about the T-1s I am warming to them with the best recordings.
I don't think they're broken either.
Maybe it's just that the T-1s aren't that impressive and my expectations are affecting my judgement.
USG
I get the impression that people think there's something wrong with Pasta cause he prefers the 880/600 & 501 over the T1..It's like people are trying to make excuses why he likes them more then the T1.. When did price or 'better' dictate musical enjoyment.
My recommendation. Sell the T1. This isn't science, don't waste your time trying to figure out why you aren't completely enthralled with the T1. Life is too short. & there's too much good music to be heard.
HRTF = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-related_transfer_function
TOTL = Top Of The Line
The DT880/'03, while decried as overly bright by many head-fiers, were never bright to my ears on any of my set-ups, nor are or ever were the DT880/600.
With my set-up, the DT880/600 definitely sound warmer and smoother than the T1. The T1 impart a very precise, "cookie cutter" definition to things, which to my ears does not sound warm, or at least not as warm as the DT880/600.
So, I would not characterize the T1 as warm headphones, either. They have a bassy "glow" to them, but to me it is not an intensive bass quality (thereby disqualifying them from my definition of warm), rather an extensive bass quality.
I've personally never heard the D7000, but based on my experience with the D5000, I cannot imagine, given the present state of things, the T1 sounding smoother in the treble.
It's statements like that from you, MH,--coupled with what seems to be an unusual humming phenomenon with my and USG's T1s and no one else's--which feed a recurring suspicion that my T1 and possibly USG's are somehow defective.
Even with David Chesky's very well mastered "Club del Sol", the T1 still sound edgy here and there, despite my deliberate choice of a smoother- and mellower-than-normal tube set.
If I were to get a pair of DT880 having '03 housings fitted with 600 ohm drivers, I think I could live happily without the T1 at this point. : )
OK, I'm getting a handle on Frank's frame of reference....... Apparently everything is relative.
He said his 701s are bright and now you say the D7000s are brighter than the T-1s..
Agreed, it just seems just too weird that we are hearing different things. The D7000's treble is a step up from the D5000s, and the T1's is in a different league IMO. "Edgy" is the last word I would use to describe them (beyer T1s) with my 38 year old ears either. I think maybe there is something wrong with your pair. If you're ever in Toronto, drop by, it would be great to compare our two T1s.
source? amps? i thought the treble of the DT990/600 was pretty tame and with a non-offensive sparkle (i'm 35 yrs old).