Dec 19, 2022 at 12:36 PM Post #541 of 2,178
Just off the ongoing cable topic...I am slowly falling in love with the default sound profile of the Solitaire T (not using Bass Boost preset from the app).

I have used my Solitaire T, in Bluetooth HQ mode, solidly throughout my shift whilst working from home today, approximately six hours of listening in fact.
Throughout today, I listened to my music in both Flat EQ (stock sound) and Bass Boost presets, but more and more stuck with the former. I also took long phone calls too, and the call quality is great on both ends; ANC was not used at all.
I'll be taking them with me into the office tomorrow for further experimentation. In the office I could see the benefit of Bass Boost and Bluetooth HQ, but I could also use Bluetooth standard and ANC instead for perhaps a better sound quality experience.

Bass Boost preset is still useful on particular albums or tracks, but after much testing, I dislike how it affects the upper-bass and lower-mids, veiling the gorgeous midrange presentation.
As before, I'd like to tweak the bass only by a little lift, between +2dB to +4dB (with a leaner curve into the midrange). The +6dB more curvy profile as it descends into the midrange has irritated me today.

To put another way, the stock sound (Flat EQ preset, aka no EQ) is superior, with the small exception of just a tad too quiet in subsonic bass presence for me.

The years of Focal Elear and Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless 1 are ebbing away, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the natural, hyper realistic, and engaging voice that is the T+A Solitaire T!
In Bluetooth streaming quality no less!
I'm genuinely floored, this is simply unlike any wireless headphones, which are voiced for a more mainstream audience (do not take that as a negative to such cans, that sound profile is its own type of fun!).

I seriously want to listen to my Solitaire T in balanced mode, and I'm going to go further and start planning a new setup around them.
I've not been this hyped or so impressed in a very long time, especially for a more neutral headphone!
It makes fun of other types of neutral sounding cans that are virtually soulless and anaemic, but Solitaire T are neutral and fun!
That treble, just just off sibilant but yet creates crazy high sound pressure, creates one of the finest intimate airy soundstages I've yet heard.
I'd loved a bigger soundstage of course, but I don't feel like I'm losing anything either, probably because the control, grip, and execution of micro and macro details in music in a smaller soundscape just works.

I'm fairly certain that I'll trade in my Focal Elear's, and I'll also move my even older AKG K 712's with gel pads as well (still have the K 701's, but that's special, even if unused and in long storage).

What a headphone; superb toned neutrality!
WIRELESSLY (can't stress how crazy that is!).
 
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Dec 19, 2022 at 12:53 PM Post #542 of 2,178
Throughout today, I listened to my music in both Flat EQ (stock sound) and Bass Boost presets, but more and more stuck with the former.

Bass Boost preset is still useful on particular albums or tracks, but after much testing, I dislike how it affects the upper-bass and lower-mids, veiling the gorgeous midrange presentation.

When T+A adding custom EQ, you will seeing yourself even decreasing the bass to -2dB! :)

To put another way, the stock sound (Flat EQ preset, aka no EQ) is superior, with the small exception of just a tad too quiet in subsonic bass presence for me.

But seriously now, I think that maybe when you spending even more time with the ST, you will seeing that even very low sub bass notes you can hearing. This notes aren't easy hearing, if at all, is more feeling actually (specially with speakers). And when you can hearing is usually because of big boost in sub bass. The ST already having very tasteful lift in this area. Pay attention and maybe you reaching similar conclusion, that you don't wanting more presence in this region of the frequency spectrum. Your ears start appreciating a new balance in the complete spectrum, including sub bass.
 
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Dec 19, 2022 at 12:56 PM Post #543 of 2,178
There is no regional variation in volume cap per T+A
 
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Dec 19, 2022 at 1:25 PM Post #544 of 2,178
Just off the ongoing cable topic...I am slowly falling in love with the default sound profile of the Solitaire T (not using Bass Boost preset from the app).

I have used my Solitaire T, in Bluetooth HQ mode, solidly throughout my shift whilst working from home today, approximately six hours of listening in fact.
Throughout today, I listened to my music in both Flat EQ (stock sound) and Bass Boost presets, but more and more stuck with the former. I also took long phone calls too, and the call quality is great on both ends; ANC was not used at all.
I'll be taking them with me into the office tomorrow for further experimentation. In the office I could see the benefit of Bass Boost and Bluetooth HQ, but I could also use Bluetooth standard and ANC instead for perhaps a better sound quality experience.

Bass Boost preset is still useful on particular albums or tracks, but after much testing, I dislike how it affects the upper-bass and lower-mids, veiling the gorgeous midrange presentation.
As before, I'd like to tweak the bass only by a little lift, between +2dB to +4dB (with a leaner curve into the midrange). The +6dB more curvy profile as it descends into the midrange has irritated me today.

To put another way, the stock sound (Flat EQ preset, aka no EQ) is superior, with the small exception of just a tad too quiet in subsonic bass presence for me.

The years of Focal Elear and Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless 1 are ebbing away, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the natural, hyper realistic, and engaging voice that is the T+A Solitaire T!
In Bluetooth streaming quality no less!
I'm genuinely floored, this is simply unlike any wireless headphones, which are voiced for a more mainstream audience (do not take that as a negative to such cans, that sound profile is its own type of fun!).

I seriously want to listen to my Solitaire T in balanced mode, and I'm going to go further and start planning a new setup around them.
I've not been this hyped or so impressed in a very long time, especially for a more neutral headphone!
It makes fun of other types of neutral sounding cans that are virtually soulless and anaemic, but Solitaire T are neutral and fun!
That treble, just just off sibilant but yet creates crazy high sound pressure, creates one of the finest intimate airy soundstages I've yet heard.
I'd loved a bigger soundstage of course, but I don't feel like I'm losing anything either, probably because the control, grip, and execution of micro and macro details in music in a smaller soundscape just works.

I'm fairly certain that I'll trade in my Focal Elear's, and I'll also move my even older AKG K 712's with gel pads as well (still have the K 701's, but that's special, even if unused and in long storage).

What a headphone; superb toned neutrality!
WIRELESSLY (can't stress how crazy that is!).
Thank you for this detailed report.

Can you also tell us a little about Comfort ? Some says that the ear cups are quite small for their ears... Thanks
 
Dec 19, 2022 at 2:09 PM Post #545 of 2,178
Thank you for this detailed report.

Can you also tell us a little about Comfort ? Some says that the ear cups are quite small for their ears... Thanks
I don’t know if my ears are big or average, but the cups aren’t bad. I find I have to wear them further back on my ear and angled back a bit more. Initially clamp force was bad, but got better over a couple days. At first the pleather is stiff and comfort is concerning. However, this goes away within a few hours of listening. Now they are very comfortable and have good seal even with my thicker glasses.

If the 5909 fit you, these are pretty close. They do require some fiddling to fit right.
 
Dec 19, 2022 at 2:38 PM Post #546 of 2,178
Thank you for this detailed report.

Can you also tell us a little about Comfort ? Some says that the ear cups are quite small for their ears... Thanks
I echo @Daniel Johnston above and his opinions on comfort.

The earpads have a narrow gap, but though the feeling of said pads are small, your ears inside the earpads are comfortable. The only area I would caution is if you have very sensitive ears, you may not enjoy wearing these cans. Please demo!

The headband is also comfortable too, but has a smaller surface area, so do not wear the headphones tight otherwise you'll feel that band across your head.

Clamping I thought was on the right side of good force but not excruciating nor loose. It's not as cool as my Meze 99 Classics that have fantastic clamping yet lightweight feel, and Focal Elear are similar to the 99 Classics, but the Solitaire T are a bit more than both. A reasuring fit is apt here.
It's not uncomfortable at all, but with the smaller narrow earcups the overall feeling is that you feel the cans subtly.

The pleather material is a bit tight and doesn't stretch for the first few wears, but with a bit of constant wear over a short period, and the heat of your skin, it gets VERY soft and lovely to feel!
They help silence the world passively too, by a margin, so bonus points there!
 
Dec 19, 2022 at 3:37 PM Post #547 of 2,178
Very back and forth on this but ended up deciding for the time being the 5909 was sufficient and I rather get a proper wired headphone. Likely for the $ would get a better jump up in quality.

Ordered the MDR-Z1R to audition!
 
Dec 19, 2022 at 3:48 PM Post #548 of 2,178
Very back and forth on this but ended up deciding for the time being the 5909 was sufficient and I rather get a proper wired headphone. Likely for the $ would get a better jump up in quality.

Ordered the MDR-Z1R to audition!
That's a fair decision, and the MDR-Z1R are still amazing modern-classic audiophile cans!

Hope you enjoy the combo 😊
 
Dec 19, 2022 at 3:53 PM Post #549 of 2,178
That's a fair decision, and the MDR-Z1R are still amazing modern-classic audiophile cans!

Hope you enjoy the combo 😊

I'm curious to hear them. A little worried given how polarizing they are but I ordered from a retailer with a great return policy.
 
Dec 20, 2022 at 7:05 AM Post #550 of 2,178
That's why I went with Audiophile Ninja...
You should get your Ninja cable soon. Being in the Netherlands, my guess is after Christmas assuming it was shipped indeed yesterday (Monday 12/19). Postings your impressions here, and most importantly, whether they are indeed compatible with Solitaire T, is much appreciated
 
Dec 20, 2022 at 7:15 AM Post #551 of 2,178
You should get your Ninja cable soon. Being in the Netherlands, my guess is after Christmas assuming it was shipped indeed yesterday (Monday 12/19). Postings your impressions here, and most importantly, whether they are indeed compatible with Solitaire T, is much appreciated
Not sure if they made it in time, as they had to rebuild it due to T+A providing an incorrect wiring scheme (brought to light by my own measurements)...
 
Dec 20, 2022 at 11:24 AM Post #552 of 2,178
Today is 5 weeks since I receiving the ST. Some comments of my experience.

First is the sound. The ST sound, in factory sound, is really practically impeccable. Initially I saying that maybe I want a little more sparkle. After 5 weeks and listening to so much different music / albums / genres with the ST, when the custom EQ is available I will not using EQ 95% of the time, this is how much I'm so impressed with the factory sound. But the custom EQ will be great for a few albums that requiring EQ (in my opinion), albums that don't having (good) re-masterings available (but is true too that many re-masterings are actually sounding more bad than the originals!!). "Foxy Lady" by J. Hendrix is never sounding so correct like with the ST. Is so often I don't like the sound of Hendrix's music with so many headphones and earphones. Remarkable the ST here.

The new increase in volume after the first firmware update is excellent, just perfect for my taste now, and is great that T+A fixing this problem so soon.

My user experience about playback (using touch interface) is now very better, not perfect (only the H95 is practically perfect here!), but very better than the first 2-3 weeks, and I'm very reasonably and acceptably happy now.

Tomorrow I'm testing ANC in a flight. I'm taking my AirPods Pro 2 too that I know will performing better, but I want seeing if the ST will working acceptably. In my last flight my 5909's ANC performance isn't acceptable, but is true too that the plane is more loud than normal in that case. I'm flying to the same place with same airline and I choosing the same seat so this test is almost scientific.
 
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Dec 20, 2022 at 11:26 AM Post #553 of 2,178
Not sure if they made it in time, as they had to rebuild it due to T+A providing an incorrect wiring scheme (brought to light by my own measurements)...
What?!

As soon as possible @WDitters, could you post a screenshot of the official pin layout as soon as you can?
(DM me if you wish).

Thank you!
 
Dec 20, 2022 at 11:30 AM Post #554 of 2,178
Dec 20, 2022 at 12:06 PM Post #555 of 2,178
I had seen these, but for whatever reason didn't clock on that the original pin layout posts from T+A are incorrect.

I'll send an email to T+A/Dealer for official confirmation of the pin layout before I place an order for cables.

Thank you!
 

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