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Headphoneus Supremus
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Well this is going spendidly
Originally Posted by fran /img/forum/go_quote.gif So it seems that aside from this thread there ain't much place to talk about the whole thing! I say talk away and comment as you want. If it upsets you, don't read this thread! |
Originally Posted by Blitzula /img/forum/go_quote.gif That was along the lines of my thinking... I just wanted somewhere to post on the matter where people can't reasonably get upset. |
Originally Posted by plainsong /img/forum/go_quote.gif Any picture of any new thing being worked on, where people have paid or are expected to pay money for it - is advertizing. |
Originally Posted by Daryn Alexander /img/forum/go_quote.gif From COEM: Hi Daryn, I can verify that I placed my order way before many head-fi members did. I will check my records and get back to you with a confirmed date. I haven't placed any new orders yet, Ken still needs to send out the outstanding orders to head-fi members. Shipping took about 5 days. I do follow the Storm treads on head-fi, I don't like the latest one, but feel free to email me if you need any more info. I have decided not to post in Storm threads, just in case COEM Audio gets dragged in to the mess. I'm sure someone will say "COEM are in on the scam" or something silly. Cheers John So basically, that part is true. Whether or not there were Head-fiers before who have not received their units is not known. But COEM isn't in on anything certainly. Basically, my concern is did Ken bypass any Headfier in the queue to make his product available on COEM? |
Originally Posted by plainsong /img/forum/go_quote.gif Superpredator, you completely missed the point. I said, more than once I think, this was in no way head-fi's responsiblity. People post pictures, it's a reasonable feature of most forums, but the posting of a picture of something people have waited a year for, only to see someone who's not them has it, and to tempt new buyers as it is doing, is just wrong. It's not against head-fi rules nor should it be, it's against the rules of common sense. I'd like to note that when confronted directly, Ken ran from this thread. Hopefully that means he's busy sending out what people rightfully bought. |
Originally Posted by Superpredator /img/forum/go_quote.gif Does it say anything at all to you that COEM, a reputable hi-fi audio retailer, still has a relationship to Ken Law? Are you completely overlooking what John said in his e-mail to you? He said he doesn't like this latest thread. He referred to it as a "mess," and he implied that it was "silly." I honestly can't put a finger on just what it is you're trying to pursue. Are you conducting an investigation? What do you hope to accomplish? |
Originally Posted by Superpredator /img/forum/go_quote.gif Here is a definition of advertising: The activity of attracting public attention to a product or business, as by paid announcements in the print, broadcast, or electronic media. |
Originally Posted by dictionary.com 1.the act or practice of calling public attention to one's product, service, need, etc., esp. by paid announcements in newspapers and magazines, over radio or television, on billboards, etc.: to get more customers by advertising. 2.paid announcements; advertisements. 3.the profession of planning, designing, and writing advertisements. |
Originally Posted by dictionary.com 1.to announce or praise (a product, service, etc.) in some public medium of communication in order to induce people to buy or use it: to advertise a new brand of toothpaste. 2.to give information to the public about; announce publicly in a newspaper, on radio or television, etc.: to advertise a reward. 3.to call attention to, in a boastful or ostentatious manner: Stop advertising yourself! |
Originally Posted by braillediver /img/forum/go_quote.gif "I hate to see people get ripped off and taken advantage of" If you look at what happened logically- Ken told everyone when the DAC should be ready and about 2 weeks before the date arrived people panicked and they started filing PayPal claims and legal action against Ken. This at a crucial time and they ruined any chance of him being able to complete the project. |
Originally Posted by Daryn Alexander /img/forum/go_quote.gif No it doesn't. They don't hang out on the weekends. COEM orders stock from Storm Digital. Storm Digital then sends it to them, then they sell it. Is that not how it works? If you're presuming that COEM audio is giving a shining endorsement to Storm Digital and all Ken Law does simply by ordering their product, I'd refer you back to COEM's response. I asked a question, it was answered, and that's where it ends. |
Originally Posted by Azure /img/forum/go_quote.gif Thank you for a definition of advertising... To clarify, I'm not trying to associate hugz with Ken Law or any of the mess he has caused. I do not believe he intends to advertise for Ken Law and honestly just wanted to post impressions of a new DAC. |
Originally Posted by Superpredator /img/forum/go_quote.gif If you can't read between the lines and comprehend what John is saying to you, clearly there is something wrong with your ability to process information |
Originally Posted by plainsong /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well then we're all disgusting then. Hugz posted some pics, it won't go down in history as the brightest idea ever on Head-fi, it wasn't illegal, it wasn't against TOS, it wasn't shilling for Ken, it just sucked, that's all. So now that we've figured out that we're all disgusting, and that some posters are optimistic to the extreme, and that zero questions were answered by the one person in a position to answer them, can we go home now? |