STAX SR-009S new flagship electrostatic earspeakers released (with impressions)

[NOMOS]

I use the EQ settings from Oratory with the 009S in changed form.
And it sounds Unbelievably good.

This is the preliminary height of a long long hifi trip

Highfidele Greetings , Nomos

 

[elton7033]

Some more reference points from the oratory1990 list (professional measurements and correction settings) for comparision:

009 => https://www.dropbox.com/s/3tfl27gzlf6mzl6/Stax SR-009.pdf?dl=0
vs.
009s => https://www.dropbox.com/s/61srehjyaltd7w0/Stax SR-009S.pdf?dl=0
vs.
007 2.9 => https://www.dropbox.com/s/nvnp51oiqdt3sph/Stax SR-007A v2.9.pdf?dl=0
vs
007 MK1 => https://www.dropbox.com/s/h0zyfb49e1yf241/Stax SR-007 mk1.pdf?dl=0
vs.
Utopia => https://www.dropbox.com/s/cl7jfxccsgmoxok/Focal Utopia.pdf?dl=0

Full list of Headphones here =>https://www.reddit.com/r/oratory1990/wiki/index/list_of_presets


I can highly recommend trying the EQ settings from oratory1990!

Especially the 009/BK will benefit a lot. It maid sounds a bit less "ether"-real but more "real" and better integrated and you can listen for hours without fatigue.

I also can recommed the EQ implemention in Roon. Parametric EQ with enough bands, precise input values, many presents to store, easy and fast switch between EQ setting or ON/OFF.

Not really good at looking at measurement, but does this mean the 009 and 009S are very similar and the 007 mk1 are closer to the Harman curve than the new mk2.9?

Can anyone also teach me what is the EQ settings from oratory1990？I want to try it out

 

[Tugbars]

Check documents more carefully, the EQ settings are shown at the bottom of the document.

 

[VandyMan]

Can anyone also teach me what is the EQ settings from oratory1990？I want to try it out

Find your headphone here:
https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/tree/master/results

 

[VandyMan]

For Roon users who want to create a convolution filter rather than using PEQ:
https://community.roonlabs.com/t/headphone-settings-for-parametric-and-convolution-equalizer/63730
https://community.roonlabs.com/t/using-convolution-filters-for-headphone-correction/71727

 

[batfier]

For Roon users who want to create a convolution filter rather than using PEQ:
https://community.roonlabs.com/t/headphone-settings-for-parametric-and-convolution-equalizer/63730
https://community.roonlabs.com/t/using-convolution-filters-for-headphone-correction/71727

Thank you very much for sharing, was not aware that wav files are available.

Much more convenient and seems to be a bit more precise/realistic than paraEQ.

 

[VandyMan]

Much more convenient and seems to be a bit more precise/realistic than paraEQ.

That is what I found also.

 

[PointyFox]

Are these files for Roon? What uses these files?

 

[batfier]

Are these files for Roon? What uses these files?

This files are inputs for a convolution engine.

Roon has one (in addition to parametric and procedural EQ engine).

There are also other convolution engines available, but don't remember names.

 

[Deolum]

Yes, I could indeed see a few points to own both

The 007 has a - for my ears - somewhat “darker” sound, but still has very much this STAX Magic. I’m using the 007 in my second system (office & PC-Monitoring) where I do most of my digitizing work and listen occasionally to some rather "Low-Fi" download stuff. Here I don’t need the absolute top-class revealing and transparent sound of the 009S; the 009S is used predominantly in my “high-end” system, where I listen mainly to analogue sources.

Both 007 and 009S are driven by Tube Amps.: the 007 with the German MalValve Headamp three, the 009S with the (also German made) SOLARIS. Both amps can also be used for dynamic / magneto static phones, btw.

One further reason for me to use the 007 as a "working tool" is the no-frills headband and slightly more comfy ear-pads – just my very personal opinion – other will disagree…

Regards

Urs

For comparisons I suggest you have to listen to both models, preferably with your own source equipment – to put any relevant differences in words is difficult, and very much matter of taste

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sta...with-impressions.877870/page-45#post-14601546

Hi. Did you play around a bit more with the Amps? I have the Solaris too and i'm wondering which Stax would be the best match for it.

 

[urs]

Deolum,

Ideally, you organize an opportunity to compare your choice of STAX models at your home - As indicated: it's a matter of taste.
The SOLARIS should not be the problem

Urs

 

[andre dufour]

Thank you! That's really helpful to hear.. especially since you have the Woo. Are there any clear differences, in terms of tonality, bass or soundstage?

009S is just a different headphone completely. It’s clearer. Better bass. Better treble. But it makes sense as it’s 10 years more modern and a step above the 009. The 009 is a great headphone but 009S is just better at everything. It’s like the 009S can run a 4 minute mile and the 009 runs a 5 minute mile. Both are great times.

The clearest difference is the sound level. I’m a believer that better headphones can still sound great at louder levels. The 009S can be listened to at ridiculously loud levels and sound fantastic. For example on WES 2 amp, 009 can be tolerated almost at the 10-11 o’clock mark. The 009S can go to the insane level of 2-3 o’clock mark. The music sounds so damn good!

 

[Not Deaf]

I went through all 78 pages of this thread and I know it has been asked before, but I really need to ask it again. I’ve done so much research on the differences between the omegas, but I’m unsure of which omega to get. I currently have the L700 with a D50 energizer. I previously had the L300/ 252 and upgraded to the L700, noting a significant improvement in soundstage, bass texture and detail, and microdetail - making the L700 an overall more pleasant headphone to listen to. I do miss the intimacy of the L300 sometimes and the enhanced perception of detail due to the forward presentation sometimes, but know the L700 is overall a better headphone.

Now that I have had a taste of what the higher end Stax sound can produce, I am curious about upgrading to a 007 or 009. I just can’t decide which one to get. Sometimes I wish for more warmth in the L700 in some tracks and want something more fuller sounding, lush, and even more musical - something I know the 007s can provide. However, there are also tracks which I feel the L700 could be slightly improved upon for separation, speed, and a greater sense of realism - something I know the 009 can provide.

I have also read that the 007 can be driven off a D50 without issue (obviously not unlocking its full potential, but good enough to sound incredible), but that the 009 needs something more substantial. I’ve also read that the 007 is slightly more power hungry than the 009 and therefore needs more juice to sound good, but that the 009 sounds great on lesser amps.

I know everyone’s opinion may differ, but I would just like some clarity on what each ear speaker can offer and which is more recommended for my setup. I don’t plan on upgrading my D50 anytime soon and my DAC is a Bifrost. I also listen to pretty much every variety of music possible. If it helps, I like the sound of the L700 better than that of an HD800/S due to the L700 having more mid bass (sounding warmer to my ear), better clarity, better detail retrieval, better sense of space, and most importantly its musicality. However, I do like the sub bass the dynamic driver gives that the L700 just can’t produce.

Any help and opinions are greatly appreciated!

 

[118900]

I went through all 78 pages of this thread and I know it has been asked before, but I really need to ask it again. I’ve done so much research on the differences between the omegas, but I’m unsure of which omega to get. I currently have the L700 with a D50 energizer. I previously had the L300/ 252 and upgraded to the L700, noting a significant improvement in soundstage, bass texture and detail, and microdetail - making the L700 an overall more pleasant headphone to listen to. I do miss the intimacy of the L300 sometimes and the enhanced perception of detail due to the forward presentation sometimes, but know the L700 is overall a better headphone.

Now that I have had a taste of what the higher end Stax sound can produce, I am curious about upgrading to a 007 or 009. I just can’t decide which one to get. Sometimes I wish for more warmth in the L700 in some tracks and want something more fuller sounding, lush, and even more musical - something I know the 007s can provide. However, there are also tracks which I feel the L700 could be slightly improved upon for separation, speed, and a greater sense of realism - something I know the 009 can provide.

I have also read that the 007 can be driven off a D50 without issue (obviously not unlocking its full potential, but good enough to sound incredible), but that the 009 needs something more substantial. I’ve also read that the 007 is slightly more power hungry than the 009 and therefore needs more juice to sound good, but that the 009 sounds great on lesser amps.

I know everyone’s opinion may differ, but I would just like some clarity on what each ear speaker can offer and which is more recommended for my setup. I don’t plan on upgrading my D50 anytime soon and my DAC is a Bifrost. I also listen to pretty much every variety of music possible. If it helps, I like the sound of the L700 better than that of an HD800/S due to the L700 having more mid bass (sounding warmer to my ear), better clarity, better detail retrieval, better sense of space, and most importantly its musicality. However, I do like the sub bass the dynamic driver gives that the L700 just can’t produce.

Any help and opinions are greatly appreciated!

Go to the latest Stax thread (3) the last 10 pages has plenty of references to the differences between the 2 and their various iterations as well as the amping requirements for the 007s

 

[PointyFox]

I went through all 78 pages of this thread and I know it has been asked before, but I really need to ask it again. I’ve done so much research on the differences between the omegas, but I’m unsure of which omega to get. I currently have the L700 with a D50 energizer. I previously had the L300/ 252 and upgraded to the L700, noting a significant improvement in soundstage, bass texture and detail, and microdetail - making the L700 an overall more pleasant headphone to listen to. I do miss the intimacy of the L300 sometimes and the enhanced perception of detail due to the forward presentation sometimes, but know the L700 is overall a better headphone.

Now that I have had a taste of what the higher end Stax sound can produce, I am curious about upgrading to a 007 or 009. I just can’t decide which one to get. Sometimes I wish for more warmth in the L700 in some tracks and want something more fuller sounding, lush, and even more musical - something I know the 007s can provide. However, there are also tracks which I feel the L700 could be slightly improved upon for separation, speed, and a greater sense of realism - something I know the 009 can provide.

I have also read that the 007 can be driven off a D50 without issue (obviously not unlocking its full potential, but good enough to sound incredible), but that the 009 needs something more substantial. I’ve also read that the 007 is slightly more power hungry than the 009 and therefore needs more juice to sound good, but that the 009 sounds great on lesser amps.

I know everyone’s opinion may differ, but I would just like some clarity on what each ear speaker can offer and which is more recommended for my setup. I don’t plan on upgrading my D50 anytime soon and my DAC is a Bifrost. I also listen to pretty much every variety of music possible. If it helps, I like the sound of the L700 better than that of an HD800/S due to the L700 having more mid bass (sounding warmer to my ear), better clarity, better detail retrieval, better sense of space, and most importantly its musicality. However, I do like the sub bass the dynamic driver gives that the L700 just can’t produce.

Any help and opinions are greatly appreciated!

That's all true. I think the SR-009 while not as warm as the SR-007 is better overall, particularity in clarity and sense of space. The SR-009 beats pretty much every other headphone in terms of clarity and sense of space and has bass extension nearly as good as the best I've heard. The only thing lacking is the bass impact that some dynamic and planarmagnetic headphones have. Combine the SR-009 with Waves NX and it's like listening to speakers.