[tom hankins]

I no I was just looking at the add and saw it didn't have a "T" I thought it might just be a typo. Is there I difference?

 

[Matthew-Spaltro]

Quote:

Originally posted by pigmode Wait. Were there any issues with the non-T version? Didn't Arcam move to a Sony transport with the T? This should be researched. My comments are based on the T model. Vert should know.

Watchu talkin bout willis

 

[Vertigo-1]

What I say is only popular rumor from Audio Asylum. But supposedly the only reason why the T version came into being is because Arcam ran out of the original transports that were used in the CD23. Since they were going to shuffle around with the internals, they also decided to redesign the motherboard and simplify it. They also upgraded the HDCD chip to the latest 200 version, and made some changes to the output section. The T version can be in all instances considered better than the original CD23 due to these changes.

Interesting side note...the incoming CD33 supposedly won't have HDCD support.

 

[pigmode]

Thak you, Senor Arcam.

 

[Matthew-Spaltro]

I thought HDCD was a dying breed anyway making way for sacd.

 

[Vertigo-1]

Truth be told...I don't even care about HDCD. I lost my respect for HDCD when I started seeing average pop CDs light up that HDCD light. Whether or not the source itself sounds better with redbook is a much larger issue than whether something carries an HDCD or SACD or DVD-A badge to me. The extra formats are a bonus to me, not a requirement.

 

[Matthew-Spaltro]

Sometimes too me HDCD sounds no better than regular redbook.

 

[Matthew-Spaltro]

Has anyone heard the CD33 yet?

 

[ServinginEcuador]

Quote:

Originally posted by Matthew-Spaltro Sometimes too me HDCD sounds no better than regular redbook.

With the older 100 series chip, that may be, but with the release of the 200 series the difference was much more pronounced.

Do a search on PCM200 and look for an article where the guy compared the two and says how much better the 200 series chip is.

 

[screwdriver]

why not haggle a lil bit and get this one :

AUDIO RESEARCH CD2

this had a lot of good reviews i think .

 

[Matthew-Spaltro]

It's tempting but the Arcam is calling...

 

[Matthew-Spaltro]

The arcam on audiogon that I am trying to buy is not the T version. Just the regular. Is there a big difference in sound?

 

[Matthew-Spaltro]

I am having a bitch of a time finding the T version. I can find plenty of regular versions just not the T.

How about this player?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayISAPI.dll...gephotohosting

 

[Matthew-Spaltro]

Or this....?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=3272

 

[tom hankins]

I've got a heavily modified CD25 and it is very nice. The shanling can be modified also and would probably be even better. The shanling can be used either tube or Solid state. If it was me, and I was chosing between these two I would get the shanling and have it modified somewhere down the road by www.underwoodhifi.com The two players are probably very close in quality of sound now, but the Shanling can be made better later. These are just my opinions. If your going to spend this much money why not go for the Audio Research CD2 that screwdriver found for you earlier in this thread. I've heard them and they are far superior to these two players.