SONY NW-WM1Z / WM1A
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Nov 1, 2016 at 11:17 PM Post #3,721 of 45,723
   
Plugging in power and turning the device on is a very simple procedure that is not limited to Android.  For example Windows Phone/Mobile does the same thing and obviously there is zero chance that system run Android at all - it's just a very simple programming logic and you cannot make the conclusion base on this behaviour, else I can also say the WM1Z runs on Windows 10 kernel (which would be really stupid conclusion, but I'm using the same logic).   
 
Also Sony has said *multiple* times that the WM1 series doesn't run Android on multiple different occasions whether it is interviews or official spec: 
http://www.phileweb.com/interview/article/201609/02/393_3.html
http://www.sony.com/electronics/walkman/nw-wm1z/specifications

My bad then
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 1:27 AM Post #3,722 of 45,723
I don't know if this thread is a good place for me to ask a question.
 
Anyway, is there going to have 2.5 mm AK to 4.4 mm balance adapter cable for using the balanced output from this sony DAP. Or it is just for exclusive sony headphone only?
 
Thank you.
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 1:41 AM Post #3,723 of 45,723
There are makers like Brise Audio who will make 2.5mm TRRS to 4.4mm. Other makers will follow suit very soon I'm sure.

The one I tried were made by Sony @ their labs a few weeks back.
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 1:44 AM Post #3,724 of 45,723
So far Brise Audio seems to be the only one doing an adapter for 4.4mm TRRS...looking forward to seeing someone (e.g. Furutech) doing a quality short adapter
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 2:06 AM Post #3,725 of 45,723
There are makers like Brise Audio who will make 2.5mm TRRS to 4.4mm. Other makers will follow suit very soon I'm sure.

The one I tried were made by Sony @ their labs a few weeks back.

What I don't understand is what their 4,4 => 3.5 does. It says female 3.5. Is it 3.5 balanced TRRS. It does not seem so. So they plug SE into balanced?
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 2:11 AM Post #3,726 of 45,723
  What I don't understand is what their 4,4 => 3.5 does. It says female 3.5. Is it 3.5 balanced TRRS. It does not seem so. So they plug SE into balanced?

 
It actually is what you think it is - it converts the Sony pin out for separate ground 3.5mm TRRS connection that was introduced by the ZX2 to the new 4.4mm plug. There are some aftermarket cables with 3.5mm Sony pin out sold in Japan so I'm pretty sure there's good demand for it especially amongst what would be Sony fans upgrading from a ZX2 to the new WM1 series that would most likely have a few of these cables lying around.
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 2:17 AM Post #3,727 of 45,723
Hope I can find the 2.5 ->4.4 adaptor at e earphones when I go to Tokyo on the 5th Nov
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 2:25 AM Post #3,728 of 45,723
Does anyone have the drawing of 5 pole 4.4 mm? I just don't understand how they make adapter from 4 pole TRRS to 5 pole 
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or one pole is just a dummy pole.
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 2:29 AM Post #3,729 of 45,723
Hope I can find the 2.5 ->4.4 adaptor at e earphones when I go to Tokyo on the 5th Nov

 
Chances may be slim, but I've read that e-earphone is getting shipments of the DIY plugs again soon so maybe grab one of those and get a converter cable custom made yourself may be a very viable alternative. 
 
In fact if you see them buy a bunch, I'll definitely be interested to buy one off you that way too. 
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 2:33 AM Post #3,730 of 45,723
  Does anyone have the drawing of 5 pole 4.4 mm? I just don't understand how they make adapter from 4 pole TRRS to 5 pole 
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or one pole is just a dummy pole.


The sleeve is for ground, doesn't have to be wired up. 
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 2:37 AM Post #3,731 of 45,723
e-earphone had no 4.4 adapters or DIY parts available as of last Saturday. I asked at Oyaide as well and they said they are working on their own versions but no ETA yet. They are not planning to stock 3rd party parts.
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 3:06 AM Post #3,732 of 45,723
http://www.ndics.com seem to supply the Pentaconn 4.4mm as per Japanese blog http://fixerhpa.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-325.html and the price seems to be around the ¥5800 (~USD$55.85). Not cheap for sure.
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 3:38 AM Post #3,733 of 45,723
   
It actually is what you think it is - it converts the Sony pin out for separate ground 3.5mm TRRS connection that was introduced by the ZX2 to the new 4.4mm plug. There are some aftermarket cables with 3.5mm Sony pin out sold in Japan so I'm pretty sure there's good demand for it especially amongst what would be Sony fans upgrading from a ZX2 to the new WM1 series that would most likely have a few of these cables lying around.

Thanks, completely useless for me.
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 4:20 AM Post #3,734 of 45,723
Hope I can find the 2.5 ->4.4 adaptor at e earphones when I go to Tokyo on the 5th Nov


Please do keep me informed. Will be in Tokyo middle of November. Cheers...
 
Nov 2, 2016 at 4:44 AM Post #3,735 of 45,723
Hi All,
 
My unit ships today, for delivery tomorrow; then tomorrow evening I will place identical cards bearing identical music into my US spec (ie uncapped) ZX2 and my EU spec (capped) new unit; I will then listen to just one track on each.
 
I will start with my Fostex TH900mkII with Toxic silver cables & balanced plug, then my Noble K10 (using the same cables).
 
Then I will report here, although, of course my new unit (still don't know which I am getting, although I assume it will be the 1A) will not be burned in and I don't really know how this affects the volume.
 
Good Luck
James
 
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