[515164]

What firmware version is included in Concerto? I see it's a full NW_WM_FW.UPG file unlike the other versions.

It's the DMP-Z1 1.02 .UPG firmware, that's also present in the original DMP-Z1 1.02 mod, which is useless, as nothing is being flashed from it - but to each their own, I have nothing against that

@RobertP can confirm that it's the .UPG that I'm talking about.

 

[Lookout57]

It's the DMP-Z1 1.02 .UPG firmware, that's also present in the original DMP-Z1 1.02 mod, which is useless, as nothing is being flashed from it - but to each their own, I have nothing against that

Thanks for clarifying. I was concerned if it was Sony official 3.01 and installing it.

Since we know that only the official Sony firmware for the WM1 will ever get installed it make it very easy for me to test different tunings. I just replace the SWUpdate.xml with the one I want to test before running SoftwareUpdateTool.

But if a tuning is for for a specific version of Sony firmware I'll use that NW_WM_FW.UPG and the new SWUpdate.xml.

 

[mwhals]

Is a WM1A with a top K mod or other as good as a stock WM1Z? It would be less money for the same performance if yes.

 

[proedros]

Is a WM1A with a top K mod or other as good as a stock WM1Z? It would be less money for the same performance if yes.

you should ask @Morbideath and @Whitigir about this , which are well versed into modding

 

[Morbideath]

Is a WM1A with a top K mod or other as good as a stock WM1Z? It would be less money for the same performance if yes.

Sorry i never owned a MS1A before. MS1Z sounded way better than stock 1Z for its technicalities though. I prefer Romi mod for both of its musicality and technicality

 

[Quang23693]

I have both and you are right that the M5 is having strong signature with 64 Audio. I have been using Tia Fourte for over 2 years and M5 is having similar signature, but is a bit less bassy and having more refined mid and high. I will describe it as Fourte Plus for my personal preference. On the other hand, Z1R is an amazing IEM with one of the best high, deep bass and prominent sub-bass. Soundstage wise Z1R is having a more holographic presentation but M5 is having higher resolution. In my opinion, both are excellent hybrid IERs for my stock 1Z, modded 1A and Cayin N6ii with E02 sound card.

Accept all of your impression. But my M5 is the different version. I can show you some picture.It has a RCX connector and plastic shell. With me it's very wonderful

 

[gerelmx1986]

 

[Quang23693]

Is a WM1A with a top K mod or other as good as a stock WM1Z? It would be less money for the same performance if yes.

I has MS1A ultimate and my friend has a stock 1Z. Both of them are the exellent dap but have a different signature. I feel 1A warm,black background , vocal also better than 1Z. While 1Z has more detail, big soundtage and very clean than 1A. Therefore, you should pick up a dap which suits your taste. Hope my impression helpful to you

 

[RobertP]

What firmware version is included in Concerto? I see it's a full NW_WM_FW.UPG file unlike the other versions.

It's from DMP1.02 and sound signature is quite different than wm1a file.

 

[Lookout57]

It's from DMP1.02

OK, not needed since it won't install.

 

[RobertP]

OK, not needed since it won't install.

Did you get error? Make sure you wm1a is on fw 3.02

 

[Lookout57]

Did you get error?

Including that NW_WM_FW.UPG file is not required as it will never load since it's for the DMP-Z1.

The proof is when you watch the install. The progress bar stops very quickly and the player reboots. Unlike with valid firmware where the progress bar takes like a minute to go all the way to then end before rebooting. Another validation is to start with a clean 3.02 and install any tuning SWUpdate.xml. Listen to a couple of tracks. Then try installing with the DMP-Z1 NW_WM_FW.UPG and listen to the same tracks. No change.

So you can make the install packages much smaller by including a dummy NW_WM_FW.UPG like morgenstern09 does for his for 3.02 based tunings.

 

[gazzington]

Wm1z with jupiter firmware and atlas iems sounds very nice indeed

 

[RobertP]

Including that NW_WM_FW.UPG file is not required as it will never load since it's for the DMP-Z1.

The proof is when you watch the install. The progress bar stops very quickly and the player reboots. Unlike with valid firmware where the progress bar takes like a minute to go all the way to then end before rebooting. Another validation is to start with a clean 3.02 and install any tuning SWUpdate.xml. Listen to a couple of tracks. Then try installing with the DMP-Z1 NW_WM_FW.UPG and listen to the same tracks. No change.

So you can make the install packages much smaller by including a dummy NW_WM_FW.UPG like morgenstern09 does for his for 3.02 based tunings.

It could be partially flash, because the progress bar took 3 sec. longer before reboot again. Why dmp1.01 sound different than dmp1.02 with same xml?

 

[515164]

It could be partially flash, because the progress bar took 3 sec. longer before reboot again. Why dmp1.01 sound different than dmp1.02 with same xml?

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sony-nw-wm1z-wm1a.815841/post-15566474

If the .UPG would be successfully decrypted, the progress bar would just reach the end, as the update kernel would execute the bash script inside the package. There is no partial flashing involved, as it cannot exist, due to how the update process works.

Why dmp1.01 sound different than dmp1.02 with same xml?

I have no idea what you are hearing, just explaining how the update process works.