SONY NW-WM1Z M2 / WM1A M2

[JohnSmithHermawan]

I was also during that era, but that era is long gone by now.

Why should we settle with less, when more is easily achievable - especially given the price asked for these devices? Or at least don't put Android on them if you're gonna have this kind of SoC

I mean, they put Android on them so we can use streaming apps, and not to only use the Music player app.

The non-Android OS experience on the dual-core 1.8 GHz Mediatek MT8590 SoC used on the WM1A/Z M1 is better than that of the ZX707 even.

In any case, the experience on the ZX707 is more acceptable - at least let us have that level of performance in the future.

Of course, it's only my view on the matter.

Wow the first Gen got a dual core for their Linux OS.

 

[MrWalkman]

Wow the first Gen got a dual core for their Linux OS.

And 512 MB of RAM!

 

[Saraugie]

WM1A M2 > CFA CLARA: HOLY COW MUY BUENO

 

[ruthieandjohn]

I was also during that era, but that era is long gone by now.

Why should we settle with less, when more is easily achievable - especially given the price asked for these devices? Or at least don't put Android on them if you're gonna have this kind of SoC

I mean, they put Android on them so we can use streaming apps, and not to only use the Music player app.

The non-Android OS experience on the dual-core 1.8 GHz Mediatek MT8590 SoC used on the WM1A/Z M1 is better than that of the ZX707 even.

In any case, the experience on the ZX707 is more acceptable - at least let us have that level of performance in the future.

Of course, it's only my view on the matter.

I designed special-purpose high speed computers for digital signal processing for speech recognition before there were DSP chips, using hardware-accumulator chips from TRW, and Intel 8086 processors coded by hand in assembly language. There was no operating system and no turn on delay…programs were in read-only memory. I would wonder what is going on during the turn-on delay. I would hope you would have a quick way to see whether the song database had changed and could avoid rescanning it if not changed. What is going on the rest of the time? Copying the program from slow non-volatile memory to fast volatile memory? Testing the integrity of each bit of storage?

 

[ttt123]

I designed special-purpose high speed computers for digital signal processing for speech recognition before there were DSP chips, using hardware-accumulator chips from TRW, and Intel 8086 processors coded by hand in assembly language. There was no operating system and no turn on delay…programs were in read-only memory. I would wonder what is going on during the turn-on delay. I would hope you would have a quick way to see whether the song database had changed and could avoid rescanning it if not changed. What is going on the rest of the time? Copying the program from slow non-volatile memory to fast volatile memory? Testing the integrity of each bit of storage?

I would guess the long initialization times are due to the myriad hardware and software systems that are queued up in the initialization sequence. Some critical ones need to wait to be finished before the next can start. There are so many systems and sensors in today's devices, that were not present before, and the complexity keeps increasing. Every generation needs to add more, as users are used to more.

 

[Sonywalkmanuser]

Mr Sato(Sony Head Sound Quality Engineer for Walkman) mentions that Qoboz doesn’t do loudness normalisation/compression like other streaming services, so I guess Qoboz is recommended for those seeking for the best in streaming service sound quality.
https://x.com/hiroaki59612632/status/1887818525257167201?s=46


“Qobuz doesn't compress or normalize the music, they just stream it as is. That's great! I really like it.”

I would guess the long initialization times are due to the myriad hardware and software systems that are queued up in the initialization sequence. Some critical ones need to wait to be finished before the next can start. There are so many systems and sensors in today's devices, that were not present before, and the complexity keeps increasing. Every generation needs to add more, as users are used to more.

Just take for example, the touchscreen of your smartphone, to the naked eye, it is just a simple glass on top of the LCD/Amoled.

However in all seriousness, it is in fact a remarkably complicated piece of material engineering that consists of many technologies that have to work together to accomplish the detection of finger presses and multi-touch. It is diffcult for people to understand how much work and engineering goes into common things that we use on a daily basis. We are living in times where people take for granted/ignorant to the amount of effort that it takes to make things work as they should.

 

[audionewbi]

• Why the table: First of all, I would never do this again, and it took me a while to put this together and in all honestly I will not pass a blind test. I wanted to share this in hope to get feedback and also make it easier for future user to use this as a general guidance.
• As you can see, there are simply too many combination, so I can't cover it all.
• Why no DSEE setting:I tend to prefer DSEE Ultimate on its own, so I don't mix it with other setting.
  • I feel Vinyl and DC phase work really well together.
• DSD setting: I only use DSD remastering when my ears are really fatigued. It simply shrinks the soundstage way too much, makes everything more even, less dynamic sounding, and feels to aggressively filter out any ultra high frequencies impurity.
  
  
• Sound connect setting: When using M9, I had the M9 profile on sound connect setting, otherwise, I force stop the app when using other IEM.

 

[Saraugie]

• Why the table: First of all, I would never do this again, and it took me a while to put this together and in all honestly I will not pass a blind test. I wanted to share this in hope to get feedback and also make it easier for future user to use this as a general guidance.
• As you can see, there are simply too many combination, so I can't cover it all.
• Why no DSEE setting:I tend to prefer DSEE Ultimate on its own, so I don't mix it with other setting.
  • I feel Vinyl and DC phase work really well together.
• DSD setting: I only use DSD remastering when my ears are really fatigued. It simply shrinks the soundstage way too much, makes everything more even, less dynamic sounding, and feels to aggressively filter out any ultra high frequencies impurity.
  
  
• Sound connect setting: When using M9, I had the M9 profile on sound connect setting, otherwise, I force stop the app when using other IEM.

A lot of work, I can't wait to try out the settings. Thanks so much!

 

[Sonywalkmanuser]

In-depth article on the historical Sony flagship Headphone MDR-R10.
https://online.stereosound.co.jp/_ct/17739500

It’s interesting how Sony tunes the headphone by gathering actual feedback from the University Professors(music related department I suppose?)!

 

[Exit]

Mr Sato(Sony Head Sound Quality Engineer for Walkman) mentions that Qoboz doesn’t do loudness normalisation/compression like other streaming services, so I guess Qoboz is recommended for those seeking for the best in streaming service sound quality.
https://x.com/hiroaki59612632/status/1887818525257167201?s=46


“Qobuz doesn't compress or normalize the music, they just stream it as is. That's great! I really like it.”




Just take for example, the touchscreen of your smartphone, to the naked eye, it is just a simple glass on top of the LCD/Amoled.

However in all seriousness, it is in fact a remarkably complicated piece of material engineering that consists of many technologies that have to work together to accomplish the detection of finger presses and multi-touch. It is diffcult for people to understand how much work and engineering goes into common things that we use on a daily basis. We are living in times where people take for granted/ignorant to the amount of effort that it takes to make things work as they should.

Qobuz indeed sounds the best to my ears among major streaming services, incl Tidal and AM. Though it does not bypass SRC, the difference I can hear when compared to streaming Qobuz via UAPP is minimal. In the end, for streaming, I settled down with Qobuz original app.

 

[Saraugie]

Mr Sato(Sony Head Sound Quality Engineer for Walkman) mentions that Qoboz doesn’t do loudness normalisation/compression like other streaming services, so I guess Qoboz is recommended for those seeking for the best in streaming service sound quality.
https://x.com/hiroaki59612632/status/1887818525257167201?s=46


“Qobuz doesn't compress or normalize the music, they just stream it as is. That's great! I really like it.”

I found it online at X with only the quote about Qoboz. Is there someplace else with the article? TY

 

[highunt]

Hello everyone

I currently have a regular WM1A and now have the opportunity to buy a WM1AM2 (Japan version) for £570.

Would you mind sharing your thoughts on whether the upgrade is worth it? My main musical genres are hip-hop, pop, and R&B.

Thanks in advance!

 

[MrWalkman]

Hello everyone

I currently have a regular WM1A and now have the opportunity to buy a WM1AM2 (Japan version) for £570.

Would you mind sharing your thoughts on whether the upgrade is worth it? My main musical genres are hip-hop, pop, and R&B.

Thanks in advance!

If the WM1AM2 would have the BT Receiver function, I might seriously consider it.

I am also curious about the comparison.

At the moment I'm using the WM1A with the Walkman One WM1Z sound signature, together with the MDR-M1 headphones, and the sound is amazing!

A Cayin RU7 is also on the way, I'm really curious about it.

 

[Sonywalkmanuser]

Hello everyone

I currently have a regular WM1A and now have the opportunity to buy a WM1AM2 (Japan version) for £570.

Would you mind sharing your thoughts on whether the upgrade is worth it? My main musical genres are hip-hop, pop, and R&B.

Thanks in advance!

For you music genre, I think bass response performance is key factor.

There’s more power reserves(long term sustainable current handling) with the newer M2 Walkman design which coupled with firmware sound changes in 1.09 that makes the bass response even much more satisfying and pronounced than ever before, you can also choose to further customise this bass using DC phase Linearizer(total of 7 options when including off).

The key is to find an iem/headphone that falls inside the power output handling capacity of the M2 Walkman and it will deliver impressive bass inside this envelope of output.

 

[slumberman]