[musicreo]

You are incorrect sir

Looking through manufactor specifications I don't see any small mics that are close to 90dB.
So does the Realiser provide specifications of the microphones or how do you know that I'm incorrect?

 

[arnaud]

I agree you’d be lucky if you got more than 70dB range from these tiny electrets, these aren’t 2kUSD a pop 1/2 inch electrostatic lab grade mics .

Not sure how much that matters though. For instance, I use agressive reverb truncation on my prirs as I can’t stand the room echo imprint…

 

[phoenixdogfan]

I agree you’d be lucky if you got more than 70dB range from these tiny electrets, these aren’t 2kUSD a pop 1/2 inch electrostatic lab grade mics .

Not sure how much that matters though. For instance, I use agressive reverb truncation on my prirs as I can’t stand the room echo imprint…

Per the Smyth instructional video Advanced Part 4: Assessing the Quality of a PRIR intra-measurement.

From 2:42 "IRVR is the late reverb SNR" and "IPER is the pre-onset SNR" Then at 2:43 "IRVR of 80-110 is typical for full bandwith speakers" and "An IPER of 60-85 is typical for full bandwith speakers."

I was there, no question every IRVR exceed 90 db, and one even exceeded 100 db.

In the Smyth video they attained an IRVR of 99db. Tells you how well the A16 with its current mics can capture reverb in a good environment.

Jeesh.

 

[sander99]

In the Smyth video they attained an IRVR of 99db. Tells you how well the A16 with its current mics can capture reverb in a good environment.

I think these numbers are not the same as the actual SNR of the mics, and the way things are measured and processed make it possible to exceed the SNR of the mics. This also is somehow related to the fact that longer sweeps can give better results.
Nevertheless, if @Litlgi74 gets better results in the studio than people at home: excellent.

 

[phoenixdogfan]

I think these numbers are not the same as the actual SNR of the mics, and the way things are measured and processed make it possible to exceed the SNR of the mics. This also is somehow related to the fact that longer sweeps can give better results.
Nevertheless, if @Litlgi74 gets better results in the studio than people at home: excellent.

Again, I didn't bring up the SNR of the Mics. Just the reported SNR from the Realizer observed in real time during the measurement process. And if it's reporting the capture of the most nuanced part of the signal (reverberant tails) out to the 90's, you can be sure you're getting an excellent capture. And if it's a good room acoustically, no need to truncate them and lose those all important spatial cues.

Makes me think that reverb truncation was done on a lot of those lifeless PRIRs I downloaded from the Google drive.

 

[arnaud]

Not that it’s much use to beat this to death (I personally have no issue whatsoever with the PRIRs I made in regards to background noise or DR) but, indeed, a small capsule may actually not be DR limited vs a larger capsule so I should stand corrected

https://www.grasacoustics.com/microphone-guide/dynamic-range

 

[RedDawn999]

Went through a very quick and seamless ordering process in John’s shop. Used Chrome.

 

[bozebuttons]

Gave John a call yesterday He was very helpful Ordered the D&d Piir used Chrome

 

[casinorob]

It was up, since I looked at the prices of the new Dutch & Dutch.
This is when I found out it is not 60% of but merely 15% for this PRIR..

let’s give credit where credit is due...the only thing that’s “merely” was the amount of correct information you shared, not the discount

 

[Fox1977]

I tried the demos on John's website yesterday, unfortunately none works for me. The front scene remains on my head level... pity !

 

[travis-bickle]

https://www.patentlyapple.com/paten...-related-transfer-function-hrtf-paramete.html
Seems Apple found a way to decouple the user specific hrtf parts for mixing with room measurements not done by yourself

 

[CaptainFunk]

Interesting, hope the Smyth's don't have plans for the Realiser that would infringe this patent. I bet what they are doing/will do is just an automatic manLoud process, so basically just EQ, which is not really magic.

I actually wonder if Apple ever tried to acquire Smyth Research, they seem to do that quite often with smaller, specialised companies. Maybe the other Smyth brother (forgot his name) now works at Apple, who knows

 

[travis-bickle]

Interesting, hope the Smyth's don't have plans for the Realiser that would infringe this patent. I bet what they are doing/will do is just an automatic manLoud process, so basically just EQ, which is not really magic.

I actually wonder if Apple ever tried to acquire Smyth Research, they seem to do that quite often with smaller, specialised companies. Maybe the other Smyth brother (forgot his name) now works at Apple, who knows

They're speaking of parameters: "When enough of the underlying parameters of the generic HRTF are personalized, the composite HRTF dataset should be indistinguishable from a measurement of the individualized HRTF of the user."
Seems to be more than just eq

 

[GeorgeA]

Interesting, hope the Smyth's don't have plans for the Realiser that would infringe this patent. I bet what they are doing/will do is just an automatic manLoud process, so basically just EQ, which is not really magic.

I actually wonder if Apple ever tried to acquire Smyth Research, they seem to do that quite often with smaller, specialised companies. Maybe the other Smyth brother (forgot his name) now works at Apple, who knows

I rather think that Smyth Research was at least one step ahead of apple. So I don’t see what patent infringement Smyth Research might do.

 

[Thomasphoenix98]

WavesNX, Creative SFXI, JVC xp-ext1 and a bunch of others offer personalisation of HTRF.