I do not how many people still believe it, but I think the answer to the question of "when" is already implicit in the question, especially given that it is already October 24th, and there is total radio silence from SR regarding any consideration of shipping. I am not saying this with any sense of despondency, since I have long accepted and resigned myself to this eventuality, in a matter of fact kind of way...
Of course YMMV
Same here, I’m not even hoping for 2018 anymore but if it does still come this year all the better of course.
And if it doesn’t then it’ll come when the time is ripe and I’m sure it will have been worth the wait for what it offers me and the price I paid for it.