[oldshoe99]

 
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I didn't use an amp, I was at an electronics outlet with 46 different headphones on display all connected to a source with demo tracks hidden behind the display, I briefly listened to all 46 headphones mostly listening to the track "Last Nite" by The Strokes.
 

 
All those Sennheisers really sucked  I think under the HD600 and HD25-1 II I Sennheiser is just another brand focusing on marketing, cheap sound and cheap plastic.
 
The Aviators were 'okay' sounding, yes they have decent balance and resolution and they are a cool fashion statement/design, in the end they sounded too detached/lifeless to me and I couldn't stand how vocals took a backseat in the performance, my favorite Skullcandy was most definitely 100% the Skullcandy "Uprock".
 
 

The low level Senns like the 238 are truly awful.  Like the Bose QC3, they are unfixable even with EQ.  OTOH, the PX-xxx-II's are usable as portables.
 

 

[genclaymore]

The problem is you prolly did not like them because the store did not have the HD 600s plugged into the amp which is a no no. They need a amp to sound their best. Sadly most stores dont realize this and plug them into bad sources, or good sources without them being amped.

 

[electropop]

He didn't say the HD600 sounded bad. Anything short of those or HD25-1's did.

 

[kiteki]

 
Yes I think some people say "all headphones sound the same" and they are actually correct if they've only listened to every low-end and overpriced Sennheiser model in stores like these, I don't think they realise that the 'true' headphones like the HD600 and SRH-940 can sound 10 times better than the $200 plastic earcups stores like these sell.
 
For the record I think the Uprock sounds like a 'cheap' headphone... however it's the most amazing sounding cheap headphone I've heard, it's like a "vintage car radio" type sound.
 
If the Aviator improves a lot with amp and source then I suppose it's an okay sounding headphone for $150-200.
 
I know some headphones can sound plain boring without the supply of high voltage juice from a DAC/Amp, Sony MDR-V6 for instance.

 

[John In Cali]

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Yes I think some people say "all headphones sound the same" and they are actually correct if they've only listened to every low-end and overpriced Sennheiser model in stores like these, I don't think they realise that the 'true' headphones like the HD600 and SRH-940 can sound 10 times better than the $200 plastic earcups stores like these sell.
 
For the record I think the Uprock sounds like a 'cheap' headphone... however it's the most amazing sounding cheap headphone I've heard, it's like a "vintage car radio" type sound.
 
If the Aviator improves a lot with amp and source then I suppose it's an okay sounding headphone for $150-200.
 
I know some headphones can sound plain boring without the supply of high voltage juice from a DAC/Amp, Sony MDR-V6 for instance.

Ahh that might be why i took the V6 off after a quick audition completely confused as to why people liked them.
 

 

[baka1969]

It isn't just what's on the box that people should be wary of (i.e. not believe).  They should also refuse to believe that the 940 is bass-light, no matter that they read it 1000 times on this forum.  Because it simply is not true.

No matter if anyone reads it 1000 times that the 940 doesn't have a hole in the mid bass, that simply isn't true. No mater if it's repeated ad nauseum that the 940 sounds like the Senn HD800, that also isn't true.

The 940 does have a hole in the mid bass that's clearly depicted in the chart:

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=863&graphID[]=3101

Not to mention clearly heard.

 

[John In Cali]

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No matter if anyone reads it 1000 times that the 940 doesn't have a hole in the mid bass, that simply isn't true. No mater if it's repeated ad nauseum that the 940 sounds like the Senn HD800, that also isn't true.
The 940 does have a hole in the mid bass that's clearly depicted in the chart:
http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=863&graphID[]=3101
Not to mention clearly heard.

Not sure what mid-bass is... the ~80-200 HZ or the below 60 HZ dip?
 
 

 

[Brooko]

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Not sure what mid-bass is... the ~80-200 HZ or the below 60 HZ dip?
 
 

I'm pretty sure the mid-bass is generally regarded to be 80-100 through to ~ 300 MHz range.  Below that is the sub-bass.  Lower mids start around 300 MHz.
 
And Baka's right - there is a definite hole in the mid-bass.  I really wish there wasn't - because I do believe the 940 would be one of the great closed headphones if that hole wasn't there.

 

[miceblue]

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I'm pretty sure the mid-bass is generally regarded to be 80-100 through to ~ 300 MHz range.  Below that is the sub-bass.  Lower mids start around 300 MHz.
 
And Baka's right - there is a definite hole in the mid-bass.  I really wish there wasn't - because I do believe the 940 would be one of the great closed headphones if that hole wasn't there.

Hm, that seems to be the spot I EQ the most. Just saying...
 

 

[kiteki]

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Ahh that might be why i took the V6 off after a quick audition completely confused as to why people liked them.

Yes I've been a little confused at times by the V6 too.
 
At the very least they're supposed to have one of the flattest responses there is and they are cheap, the V6 is very popular in studios however I think the CD900 or CD900ST is considered a better model, if I'm not mistaken the original CD900 has sapphire coated drivers. Most recently there is the EX800ST and MDR-7520.

 

[Brooko]

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Hm, that seems to be the spot I EQ the most. Just saying...
 

You need to try the HD600 at some stage then ..... no need to EQ 

 

[miceblue]

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You need to try the HD600 at some stage then ..... no need to EQ 

I will note that and add them to my list of headphones to consider.

 

 

[nikp]

How do these compare to the HD800? I kid.. But looking at various reviews, a lot of reviewers compare it to the HD800 and I find it quite funny.

 

[kr0gg]

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I'm pretty sure the mid-bass is generally regarded to be 80-100 through to ~ 300 MHz range.  Below that is the sub-bass.  Lower mids start around 300 MHz.
 
And Baka's right - there is a definite hole in the mid-bass.  I really wish there wasn't - because I do believe the 940 would be one of the great closed headphones if that hole wasn't there.

wow. most people don't hear higher than 14khz
 
300Mhz is pretty high...

 

[Brooko]

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wow. most people don't hear higher than 14khz
 
300Mhz is pretty high...

And thanks ...... should read "80-100 through to ~ 300 Hz range"
 
Been thinking PCs for too long