Shanling M5s now with TIDAL - Dual AK4493EQ DAC, fully balanced, Wi-Fi, 2way LDAC BT, 3.2 Touch screen, FW 3.7
Jan 23, 2019 at 6:01 AM Post #1,698 of 2,497
40 seconds you say. Around 30 second after music is paused, audio circuit shuts down. When you restart playback, it should all turn back on.

Can you please try to do this again and actually put your ear next to your player, on restarting playback you should hear two metal clicks, about 2.5 seconds apart.

I'm getting suspicious this problem might be amplifier part not turning back on. So you are getting just weak signal from DAC.

Sure thing, will try later today when I get back from work :)
 
Jan 23, 2019 at 5:12 PM Post #1,701 of 2,497
Does anyone know how to name or rename a playlist? Every time I try to create a playlist it is just Playlist 1/2/3 and I cannot find the rename option!
 
Jan 23, 2019 at 5:24 PM Post #1,702 of 2,497
@Shanling It is most certainly not related to the relays cutting out the amp circuit, because if i resume the playback after relay click, it just clicks again and music resumes on same volume as previously.
Tried to replicate the issue multiple times with varying settings regarding auto-idle and auto-shutdown setting, with multiple tries with each setting. However, I managed to have this issue only once through all this testing and once by accident :triportsad: It was with auto-shutdown and auto-standby both turned off. The issue happened after pausing the playback and waiting 1 minute, then trying to play music again with side buttons with screen turned off. The issue didn't appear again after rebooting and trying the same "procedure" again, sadly :frowning2: The second time it happened was when i paused the playback, unplugged the iems and went to get a different pair, plugged in the other pair and the playback was very quiet. Once again I wasn't able to replicate this to happen again, even when playing around with different pairs of earphones. Seems to be a very random behavior, but related to idling.
 
Jan 23, 2019 at 8:29 PM Post #1,704 of 2,497
Does anyone know how to name or rename a playlist? Every time I try to create a playlist it is just Playlist 1/2/3 and I cannot find the rename option!

Currently no way how to change it.

But since M5s has access to standard keyboard (for Wifi passwords), I hope software team can change it in future.

@Shanling It is most certainly not related to the relays cutting out the amp circuit, because if i resume the playback after relay click, it just clicks again and music resumes on same volume as previously.
Tried to replicate the issue multiple times with varying settings regarding auto-idle and auto-shutdown setting, with multiple tries with each setting. However, I managed to have this issue only once through all this testing and once by accident :triportsad: It was with auto-shutdown and auto-standby both turned off. The issue happened after pausing the playback and waiting 1 minute, then trying to play music again with side buttons with screen turned off. The issue didn't appear again after rebooting and trying the same "procedure" again, sadly :frowning2: The second time it happened was when i paused the playback, unplugged the iems and went to get a different pair, plugged in the other pair and the playback was very quiet. Once again I wasn't able to replicate this to happen again, even when playing around with different pairs of earphones. Seems to be a very random behavior, but related to idling.

Will report it and will try experimenting more. I asked Chinese colleagues, but they didn't get a single report of this from whole Chinese market.
It happened to me twice, so I know it isn't limited to your unit.
 
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Jan 23, 2019 at 8:49 PM Post #1,705 of 2,497
@Shanling It is most certainly not related to the relays cutting out the amp circuit, because if i resume the playback after relay click, it just clicks again and music resumes on same volume as previously.
Tried to replicate the issue multiple times with varying settings regarding auto-idle and auto-shutdown setting, with multiple tries with each setting. However, I managed to have this issue only once through all this testing and once by accident :triportsad: It was with auto-shutdown and auto-standby both turned off. The issue happened after pausing the playback and waiting 1 minute, then trying to play music again with side buttons with screen turned off. The issue didn't appear again after rebooting and trying the same "procedure" again, sadly :frowning2: The second time it happened was when i paused the playback, unplugged the iems and went to get a different pair, plugged in the other pair and the playback was very quiet. Once again I wasn't able to replicate this to happen again, even when playing around with different pairs of earphones. Seems to be a very random behavior, but related to idling.
Is it possible that they have incorporated a muting function in the design such that when the IEM's are unplugged the volume is automatically decreased to minimize the risk of overloading/blowing whatever gets plug back in? My Cowon P1 has this feature and it annoys me but I understand why it works this way (no option to turn it off either). Just a thought since you mentioned it happened after unplugging your IEM's...

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Tim
 
Jan 23, 2019 at 9:11 PM Post #1,706 of 2,497
Is it possible that they have incorporated a muting function in the design such that when the IEM's are unplugged the volume is automatically decreased to minimize the risk of overloading/blowing whatever gets plug back in? My Cowon P1 has this feature and it annoys me but I understand why it works this way (no option to turn it off either). Just a thought since you mentioned it happened after unplugging your IEM's...

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Tim

I hated that function on my Plenue D, most ridiculous ever! Especially if you are reviewer and want to switch headphones quickly for A/B.

But no, M5s has nothing like this.
 
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Jan 24, 2019 at 3:10 AM Post #1,707 of 2,497
Currently no way how to change it.

But since M5s has access to standard keyboard (for Wifi passwords), I hope software team can change it in future.

Regarding these QoL features, I would like to propose a simple file manager for when I would like to copy something from OTG storage to SD card or rename a file, would be nice :)

Will report it and will try experimenting more. I asked Chinese colleagues, but they didn't get a single report of this from whole Chinese market.
It happened to me twice, so I know it isn't limited to your unit.

Sure thing, must be software related. Hope it will be fixed soon :)
 
Jan 24, 2019 at 8:51 PM Post #1,708 of 2,497
I just placed an order for the M5S. Looking forward to hearing its signature. Got black with black case. How much more black could it be? None, none more black.
 
Jan 24, 2019 at 11:22 PM Post #1,709 of 2,497
@Shanling

So is the low volume debacle associated with the new firmware? With my unit, it happens after taking out the old headphones and then replugging the new headphones into the 3.5mm jack. (I don't have balanced headphones at the moment, so I don't use the 2.5mm jack.)

With mine though, sometimes there would be no sound at all.

This occurence also happens almost every time I switch headphones with 2.1.

I already have my M5s packed and ready to be returned to MusicTeck tomorrow, since I thought my player's defective.
 
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Jan 25, 2019 at 1:34 AM Post #1,710 of 2,497
Sure thing, must be software related. Hope it will be fixed soon :)

@Shanling

So is the low volume debacle associated with the new firmware? With my unit, it happens after taking out the old headphones and then replugging the new headphones into the 3.5mm jack. (I don't have balanced headphones at the moment, so I don't use the 2.5mm jack.)

With mine though, sometimes there would be no sound at all.

This occurrence also happens almost every time I switch headphones with 2.1.

I already have my M5s packed and ready to be returned to MusicTeck tomorrow, since I thought my player's defective.

It has something to do with firmware, managed to replicate few times on my unit. We are now trying to figure out what is it causing it and will fix it in firmware update.
Unfortunately with our units, it seems to be quite rare occurrence.

So far only thing we figured out, if your volume get lowered, instead of restating unit, you can go to setting and change DSD output mode, which will for some reason reset volume to normal.
 
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