[yangian]

  Technically your assumption is not true. The maker can simply reengineer everything, and while in a research sense there sure will be differences, they are sufficiently small to be not apparent even for a well trained person, as Rob80b's report showed.
 
 
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Otherwise, it's unthinkable why they didn't create a new brand.

 
Why should they do so? Advertising an "IE800" yields more customers and business than advertising an xyz4711... 

 
I agree with you. Your arguments are more convincing!

 

[yangian]

   
 
The clones are worth the $50 or so you pay for them.
 
They don't have that WOW you say when you hear the real IE800's.
 
Side by side, no comparison.

 
Not necessary. There so many different DIY/clones of IE800 on Taobao and ali. There might be some really good ones.

 

[Rob80b]

   
Not necessary. There so many different DIY/clones of IE800 on Taobao and ali. There might be some really good ones.

Regardless....and it has been brought up in the fake ie800 thread...most distressing is the fact that there may be many who believe they have purchased a legit, real ie800s...sad but true....right now there is a vendor on ebay selling multiple refurbs, well they may be refurbs but of copies (fakes)...check the backward "S" on the connector.......

 

[Dobrescu George]

 
Regardless....and it has been brought up in the fake ie800 thread...most distressing is the fact that there may be many who believe they have purchased a legit, real ie800s...sad but true....right now there is a vendor on ebay selling multiple refurbs, well they may be refurbs but of copies (fakes)...check the backward "S" on the connector.......

 
I can confirm - the originals have the S the other way around, 

 

[yangian]

Regardless....and it has been brought up in the fake ie800 thread...most distressing is the fact that there may be many who believe they have purchased a legit, real ie800s...sad but true....right now there is a vendor on ebay selling multiple refurbs, well they may be refurbs but of copies (fakes)...check the backward "S" on the connector.......:rolleyes:

This is too easy to clone wrongly. Do you think the fake makers purposely made it like this to let people know theirs are fake! This is strange and interesting.

 

[les_garten]

This is too easy to clone wrongly. Do you think the fake makers purposely made it like this to let people know theirs are fake! This is strange and interesting.

 
 
The Chinese make very simple errors like this with Letters, very common.
 
Because these are not the letters they use, they don't see these problems and they go uncorrected.  
 
To coin a phrase, "these characters are foreign to them"
 
How would you do with writing Chinese characters?
 
BMW  or BWM
 
you would not make that mistake, but they would.

 

[Rob80b]

This is too easy to clone wrongly. Do you think the fake makers purposely made it like this to let people know theirs are fake! This is strange and interesting.

Well as I posted in the the fake thread.

..............  Wonder if the reversed S was done on purpose, but it's only done on one side????  (the two shown are both copies)

 

[migasson]

Though ive said this before, ive just got a pair. These are it. Easy to insert, with a godlike sound. My search has ended- its my sound sig to a tee..

I got these as my Lyras broke within two weeks, so i grabbed these. Now im glad my Lyras broke, lol

I use it with a Pioneer XDP-100R - reading through this thread, some have said it hasn't got the drive. Nope- sounds amazing. Quality DAP is all you need. I'm at 110db max, and it's plenty with all the control required.

I find it REALLY hard to pull them out of my head, as they're so damn enjoyable

EDIT: Damn things are awesome. I reiterate- these ARE NOT HARD TO DRIVE! my DAP drives them just fine.. they have everything i need

 

[cellarbro]

Picked up my pair of IE800's and got them for sonicelectronix.
 
Regardless, I went on the fake IE800 thread to make sure that mine were legit. I am 98% sure they are legit but I might post some photos up tomorrow just to check.
 
They didn't sound that great out of the box but I have heard the IEM's in store at the sennheiser store. I know what to expect. Just waiting for it to burn in. 

 

[kuebler]

  I know what to expect. Just waiting for it to burn in. 

 
Always great again...  Psycho-acoustics at its best...
 
Brain and perception will burn in, not the hardware...   

 

 

[Dobrescu George]

Always great again...  Psycho-acoustics at its best...

Brain and perception will burn in, not the hardware...     

Some.people say that ie800 has some degree of burn in - I have never heard it .

 

[Sound Eq]

I never heard any change with ie800 after burn in.

It sounds the same since day one

 

[Dobrescu George]

I never heard any change with ie800 after burn in.

It sounds the same since day one

And that sound is marvelous !

Would you believe me if I said that I prefer ie800 over everything else as far as signatures go ?

But yeah, I never seen any changes in SQ or in Fr with ie800 or most headphones / IEMs ...

 

[yangian]

Well as I posted in the the fake thread.

Yeah, I saw your post on fake ie800 thread. These fake makers were newbies on fake making.

 

[yangian]

Anyone have both ie800 and er4s/p? How about er4 imaging, separation and soundstage compared to 800? No need to compare bass.