[magiccabbage]

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Yes, most if not all of the so called "burn in" is just the brain adapting. It's designed to do so by nature 
 
Few things sounds really good if you have no reference to it, if you have totally screwed references you may even hate the absolute natural sound ...

thats interesting about the burn in. My friend recently got a pair of KEFF R500 speakers and after about the 15 - 20 hours burn in period there was a heck of a lot more low end that just wasn't there before. i mean an awful lot more and it was louder as well. If it is your brain adjusting then its doing an incredible amount of adjusting. the same thing happened with my wa2 -- after 30 hours the low end came in. 

 

[fuzzy1969]

Meier audio has some interesting information on break in, under his tips & tricks section, he recommends some bass heavy music.

 

[gtb123]

Burn in does exist in headphones and also in our brain. My K701 sounded crappy until one day after burnt-in. The clarity improved by a lot and the sound was free of grain unlike before.

 

[longbowbbs]

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Interesting conversation....Too bad I can't have everyone over for a mini meet 

 
Here are the HD650's and HD800's both connected to my Decware Taboo MK III.
 
 
 
 
I have had the HD650's for a long time. I will likely never sell them  They have their own particular magic. However, the bass depth and quality from the HD800's is superior and it is not close. I have a lot of respect for David Mahler and his extraordinary collection. Perhaps he and I simply hear things differently. Nothing unusual about that.
 
If you have not spent significant time with both, I would recommend that you find an opportunity to do so. You will enjoy the discovery and you can discuss the differences with your own first hand knowledge and experience.
 

 
You make a good point. And I accept your invitation to come over to hear the hd800 at it's best. 

 
I'll whip up the Kool-aid and cookies...

 

[longbowbbs]

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Interesting conversation....Too bad I can't have everyone over for a mini meet 

 
Here are the HD650's and HD800's both connected to my Decware Taboo MK III.
 
 

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I have had the HD650's for a long time. I will likely never sell them  They have their own particular magic. However, the bass depth and quality from the HD800's is superior and it is not close. I have a lot of respect for David Mahler and his extraordinary collection. Perhaps he and I simply hear things differently. Nothing unusual about that.
 
If you have not spent significant time with both, I would recommend that you find an opportunity to do so. You will enjoy the discovery and you can discuss the differences with your own first hand knowledge and experience.
 

 
I don't question Dave's findings. His impressions are just being distorted to "support" an assumption.

 
True enough...People need to do what they can to form their own opinions before building the castle on sand.....

 

[joebobbilly]

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/schiit/12.html
 
This reviewer seemed to enjoy the HD 800's on the Lyr. Also seems to be a reputable source.

 
Recently at a meet, tried the HD 800 with the Lyr/Bifrost feeding Lossless out of a macbook. I was quite pleased

... and yes generally I would say the HD 800 is a big improvement over the HD 650 in nearly all regards except for the "midbass" emphasis which can be annoying for some genres

, but sooooooo smooth and musical and pleasing for others

 
Sadly, I believe that I won't be dropping $$$ on HD 800s no matter how much I would love a pair... cause I feel I'd have to go balanced to really be making it worthwhile to jump up to the 4 figure pricing range (especially since I recently heard what an HD 600 can do when running balanced, and teh HD800 should only scale even higher)... and that opens my wallet to a whole new world of hurt.

 

 

[sp3llv3xit]

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[size=12.727272033691406px]Halfway through boredom on a Sunday afternoon, I butchered my Senns. Now, it sings like a castrated eunuch in heat.[/size]

 

[brymuse]

Interesting about burn in. I too heard substantially less veil(and I find this term misleading anyway as it tends to intimate a deficiency)after a certain amount of burn in. Not all of the burn in was listening, so only some it seems to me can be attributed to the brain. However, yesterday i had occasion to listen through the headphone socket of a mid-budget CD player, unamped. I was expecting it to sound nasty, but was very pleasantly surprised at the balance. It retained its liquidness (my new favourite word for its presentation!)and seemed somehow a tad brighter - maybe similar to what people try to achieve when removing the foam...
To be honest it scared me slightly thinking about the cost of my rig that I could be satisfied so quickly!!
Perhaps a trip to the audiologist is in order...:S

 

[CoolBurn]

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Best advertising slogan for a pair of headphones ever !
 
Not sure I would buy them then though
 
P.-S.: This is just some humour, I like the sound of the HD650 and am not making fun of the phones

 

[MattTCG]

I wouldn't change/mod the 650 a bit. I love 'em just like they are. 

 

[fuzzy1969]

+1

 

[dxanex]

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[size=12.727272033691406px]Now, it sings like a castrated eunuch in heat.[/size]

 
Not to split hairs, but isn't that technically impossible? Seeing as how a Eunick wouldn't have his working man bits?

 

[eke2k6]

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Not to split hairs, but isn't that technically impossible? Seeing as how a Eunick wouldn't have his working man bits?

 
That's the first thought that came to my mind.

 

[CraftyClown]

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That's the first thought that came to my mind.

 
I think he was just stressing the point

 

[Lorspeaker]

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Not to split hairs, but isn't that technically impossible? Seeing as how a Eunick wouldn't have his working man bits?

 
havent u noticed a few states have approved HAPPY marriages?