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Is the Chord Hugo 2 worth it with an HD650? I'm wondering whether to get an HD820 or a Hugo 2 for the HD650 as I'm worried about weak vocals and dry sound with the HD820.
I'm going to assume you mean HDVD 820 (DAC/amp) versus HD820 (headphone). While I haven't heard the HDVD 820 I've borrowed the HDVD 800 from a friend a few times and its never impressed me with any of the headphones that I've tried on it. I like the Hugo and have only heard the Hugo2 twice and while I think they are great DAC/amps to me they are quite over priced unless you get a good deal on them. My friend that owns the Hugo and Hugo2 and a few other audio loving friends have tried most of the headphones that we own on the Hugo, Hugo2 and quite a bit of other gear and we all agree that the Hugo and Hugo2 are quite good but with some headphones like the HD650, HD700, HD800, and T1gen1 are easily bettered by a Modi MB ($250) + BH Crack (w/ better tubes, about $600-700) but for some like my friend the Hugo/Hugo2 is much more convenient and she doesn't like dealing with tubes since she has cats.Is the Chord Hugo 2 worth it with an HD650? I'm wondering whether to get an HD820 or a Hugo 2 for the HD650 as I'm worried about weak vocals and dry sound with the HD820.
beside the obvious loss of low end from a poor seal, you might notice some changes from placement related to the treble(then again it's the same for all headphones. the smaller the frequency, the more likely it is for a small physical shift to cause an impact). personally when I measure stuff on the cheapo dummy head, I see somewhat relevant variations starting around 6 or 7kHz and above. but to my hear I only notice a change near 10kHz. I'd subjectively quantify it as "audible yet not a big deal". ^_^interesting...i have never paid too much attention to the position
Is the Chord Hugo 2 worth it with an HD650? I'm wondering whether to get an HD820 or a Hugo 2 for the HD650 as I'm worried about weak vocals and dry sound with the HD820.
I'd get the HD820 assuming you have a decent DAC/amp set up that will do the HD820 justice and you need a closed headphone, if not I much prefer the HD800S or even better the original HD800 with a good OTL ampI mean HD820 headphones. Whether to buy those or get a Hugo 2 for these.
I mean HD820 headphones. Whether to buy those or get a Hugo 2 for these.
I think you missed his post 42727 where he clarified it was the HD820 headphones versus the HDV 820 amp, I know I had to read his post twice before I noticed he was saying HD820 headphone versus HDV820 amp.I think he means HDV 820 (amp) rather than HDVD 820 (DAC/amp) or HD820 (headphone)
Four days off work and nothing I really wanted to see on TV at the time, and yard work was totally not going to happen, sooo...wow....i read the thread when it's like 1500ish pages long...i doubt I would do it again when it's 2800ish pages long...lol
good efforts
beside the obvious loss of low end from a poor seal, you might notice some changes from placement related to the treble(then again it's the same for all headphones. the smaller the frequency, the more likely it is for a small physical shift to cause an impact). personally when I measure stuff on the cheapo dummy head, I see somewhat relevant variations starting around 6 or 7kHz and above. but to my hear I only notice a change near 10kHz. I'd subjectively quantify it as "audible yet not a big deal". ^_^
as it happens, yes. I'm not sure I have tried measuring placement variations with old pads, I think I've kept a well used pair of pads somewhere just for the sake of "old vs new" sort of tests once, but right now I have no idea where I stored it... if I can get my brain to work, or if I find them by sheer luck as it can happen the second I stop searching, I'll try to see if it has a significant influence on the FR when moving the headphone around.I assume that the ear pads are relatively new here?
Well it happens with any headphone indeed, but it's especially evident with the HD 650, since they have a peak in the upper-mids and the pads are relatively stiff, you'll notice it getting over emphasized very quickly if they're not positioned perfectly on your head.beside the obvious loss of low end from a poor seal, you might notice some changes from placement related to the treble(then again it's the same for all headphones. the smaller the frequency, the more likely it is for a small physical shift to cause an impact). personally when I measure stuff on the cheapo dummy head, I see somewhat relevant variations starting around 6 or 7kHz and above. but to my hear I only notice a change near 10kHz. I'd subjectively quantify it as "audible yet not a big deal". ^_^
Honestly, the HD 650 sounds it's best when it's positioned a certain way on your head. Not too much down, and not too much up to your ears vertically, and the same thing with the cups horizontally. That's when you'll hear the most details, best timbre and it'll be very smooth.
Position them a bit off, and they'll start to sound more shouting very quickly.