[ziggysp2000]

 
600 vs. 650:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/597405/comparing-the-hd600-vs-hd650/60#post_11426585
 
now, scram. off to grado-land you go.

LOL.... wow, exile is harsh. I don't even self identify as a 'grado guy'

 

[ziggysp2000]

Actually based on that, HD650 would be the better choice for me... not because I'd prefer, but because it would offer much more contrast to HD800. HD600 sounds like a mini HD800 in that review the way it is described.

 

[Krutsch]

  Actually based on that, HD650 would be the better choice for me... not because I'd prefer, but because it would offer much more contrast to HD800. HD600 sounds like a mini HD800 in that review the way it is described.

 
^^ This ^^

 

[Krutsch]

  LOL.... wow, exile is harsh. I don't even self identify as a 'grado guy'

 
We are called "Grado Heads" ... and I am staying right here, with both teams 

 

[whirlwind]

 

  Actually based on that, HD650 would be the better choice for me... not because I'd prefer, but because it would offer much more contrast to HD800. HD600 sounds like a mini HD800 in that review the way it is described.

 
^^ This ^^

Yup...

 

[Solrighal]

It's entirely possible, via EQ, to make a 650 sound like a 600. The reverse? Not so much..

 

[CanadianMaestro]

  It's entirely possible, via EQ, to make a 650 sound like a 600. The reverse? Not so much..

couldn't one bump up the bass for this and/or down the treble?

 

[Solrighal]

It's a lot easier to reduce the mid-bass hump than it is to attempt to recreate it.
 
The HD 650 responds really well to EQ, far better than any other headphone I've owned. It also really seems to benefit from a good crossfeed application.

 

[DecentLevi]

Hello, what do you mean by a crossfeed application? Do you mean like a pre-amp?

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Crossfeed applications attempt to make your headphones into "artificial speakers" by having a set percentage of each ear bleed into the other. The reasoning is that if you listen to actual floor speakers, the sound pans from side to side but both ears still hear what comes out of each. Headphones can be fatiguing because the imaging is SO severe.
 
For example, on a lot of albums, the drum kit is panned like a real drum it would be. Hi hats on one side, snare and kick in the center, toms travel from side to side. With stereo floor speakers, it sounds like a drum kit in front of you. On headphones, it sounds like the hi hats are allllll the way to one side of the room and toms are allllll the way to the other. You're not sitting in front of the instruments, you're sort of sitting in the center of them. 

 

[CanadianMaestro]

  It's a lot easier to reduce the mid-bass hump than it is to attempt to recreate it.
 

Thanks. I didn't know this. EQ'ing hasn't appealed to me, but experimenting may pay dividends..

 

[Solrighal]

  Thanks. I didn't know this. EQ'ing hasn't appealed to me, but experimenting may pay dividends..

 
If EQ really doesn't appeal to you then I suggest you sell all your stuff & buy an O2. Everything is an EQ.

 

[ziggysp2000]

   
If EQ really doesn't appeal to you then I suggest you sell all your stuff & buy an O2. Everything is an EQ.

I'm not totally sure what that means, but I'm tempted to disagree regardless
 
No... everything has a frequency curve, not an EQ.

 

[mikoss]

I think he means to say that most gear colours the music in some fashion...

 

[Solrighal]

  I'm not totally sure what that means, but I'm tempted to disagree regardless
 
No... everything has a frequency curve, not an EQ.

 
EQ is simply the alteration of a sound signature to something more desirable to the listener. Valves do pretty much the same thing.
 
Anyway, I'm not arguing the point, merely pointing out that truly flat isn't what most people are looking for.
 
In a studio, maybe. On the couch, not so much.