[Tuco1965]

All my tubes have changed with run time on them. Usually 50 to 100 hours to get them to a consistent sound. This has been my experience using a Schiit Lyr.

 

[indieman]

  1. They wouldn't have been around for so long if they weren't so sexy!
2. 598's are classics, and sq is very similar to 600's. Significant is in the ear of the beholder.  The overall fit to me makes them more comfortable in warmer months.  Even at 300 ohms, I can drive these with my iPod 5th gen.

 
Many thanks for the reply! If they are similar to my hd598, I'm sure I'll like them!

 

[Keithpgdrb]

the 600's are similar to the 580's.  not the 598.  If I recall, the 598 is very grado like?

 

[HPiper]

  the 600's are similar to the 580's.  not the 598.  If I recall, the 598 is very grado like?

NO Sennheiser is Grado like

 

[Keithpgdrb]

 
NO Sennheiser is Grado like

Very true.  I guess I mean the 598 is more known for its high end detail and soundstage, not so much its balanced, wonderful, godlike sound, like the 600.  the 600 isn't the best hp out there by any means, but you have to climb up the ladder pretty high to match what it can do.  especially at its price point.  Many people never get rid of their 600.  it sits right next to their stax setup.

 

[indieman]

As long as it's an upgrade to the hd598's! Or would they be similar enough to not be worth it? I was also eyeing the q701's...

 

[80smusicboy]

As long as it's an upgrade to the hd598's! Or would they be similar enough to not be worth it? I was also eyeing the q701's...

I found the Q701 very thin sounding. They were detailed, but they lacked bass and voices were thin and screetching. The HD600 really are natural sounding without losing detail. Only the soundstage is smaller on the HD600.

 

[Keithpgdrb]

  As long as it's an upgrade to the hd598's! Or would they be similar enough to not be worth it? I was also eyeing the q701's...

definite upgrade.

 

[indieman]

Ok I feel better then

 

[guywithtwohands]

  As long as it's an upgrade to the hd598's! Or would they be similar enough to not be worth it? I was also eyeing the q701's...

I have both the HD 598 and HD 600. The 600 is definitely the better headphone. It's especially easy to notice if you listen to the HD 598 for a while and then swap them; the 598s sound noticeably grainier. I wouldn't say it's a massive difference, but it's certainly more than enough to notice.
 
I don't think the 600 is superior in all aspects, though. In my opinion the 598 beats it in soundstage and comfort.
 
To my ears, the sound signature is fairly similar.
 
I really enjoy them both.

 

[eugenius]

598 is nice but it's still consumer level build quality, plasticky finish and a lower quality driver. The implementation of that driver is very good though.
 
I'd like a HD600 level driver or better in a more modern angled driver structure like the 598 (that was supposed to be the hd700 and we all know how that turned out).
 
Sennheiser is now occupied with price increases and competing with Beats for the real profits so ... I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Transformatron]

  598 is nice but it's still consumer level build quality, plasticky finish and a lower quality driver. The implementation of that driver is very good though.
 
I'd like a HD600 level driver or better in a more modern angled driver structure like the 598 (that was supposed to be the hd700 and we all know how that turned out).
 
Sennheiser is now occupied with price increases and competing with Beats for the real profits so ... I'm not holding my breath.

Sennheiser – the Pursuit of Perfect Sound Price Increases.

 

[bigbenrfan99]

I just traded my DT880 Premium for an HD600.  While it is a slight downgrade in comfort and soundstage, I think the HD600 sounds better overall (especially with vocals).  I have listened to a few rock, metal, and pop songs.  Overall, I think it is a slight upgrade.

 

[barid]

I just traded my DT880 Premium for an HD600.  While it is a slight downgrade in comfort and soundstage, I think the HD600 sounds better overall (especially with vocals).  I have listened to a few rock, metal, and pop songs.  Overall, I think it is a slight upgrade.

I consider them on par with each other. Im a big fan of both.

 

[guy3134]

anyone of you guys has the schiit valhalla?