[John Willett]

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the graphs on innerfidelity show that the newer hd25-1 IIs being nearly the same as the amperiors  (as opposed to the older hd25-1 IIs which look different). i guess we'll see when they actually are available so i can go and compare them. 

 
Something is wrong here - the HD 25-1 and the HD 25-1 II are absolutely identical - the headphones are exactly the same.
 
The only difference is in the packaging and the fact that the cable was lengthened by 0.3m and the jack adaptor was a screw-on instead of a push-on.

 

[extrabigmehdi]

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Hi there - 
 
If anyone's interested, I've posted some impressions of the Amperior and a few other great headphones in a new article.

Nice review, but I guess , you were to some extent influenced by your expectations (you confirmed more or less this on your conclusion :
you'd expected the hd800 to sound the best , the amperior to be better than  hd25 , etc ... the only surprise was the amperior you ranked above hd600).
By the way, the hd25 sound less boomy, and cleaner when using velour pad .
And this story of gold/silver connector, or cable ... I'm skeptical

 
Oh and by the way, I wouldn't classify "pat methny" as being "new age" , but "accoustic guitar".

 

[Windsor]

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I presume you mean Stratford in London, rather than the place where Shakespeare was born?

 
Thank you so much for making me aware of that, John - in my previous post I meant to write not Stratford-upon-Avon, but Stratford, London.

 

[Windsor]

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Nice review, but I guess , you were to some extent influenced by your expectations (you confirmed more or less this on your conclusion :
 
Hiya, and thanks
 
Just to confirm, though I might have had some thoughts about how the headphones I reviewed may perform in the test, during the creation process of the comparison I very much stayed in the moment i.e. present, as much as possible and noted my impressions as I heard them fresh. I did that to the best of my ability.
 
you'd expected the hd800 to sound the best , the amperior to be better than  hd25 , etc ...
 
I didn't presuppose that the HD 800 would sound best (that's just your thinking); I - to quote myself - "had a suspicion that the HD 800 would do very well across the board, which it did." Though I wondered about how the headphones would compare, I didn't know what the overall result of the comparison would be for sure, but I did know that the Amperior would sound a bit 'better' than the HD 25 because I'd A/B'd them a day or so before writing the article. 
 
the only surprise was the amperior you ranked above hd600).
 
Staying in the moment, as I did when writing the article made most of it a surprise. But you're probably right. 

 
By the way, the hd25 sound less boomy, and cleaner when using velour pad .
 
I used the velour pads on the HD 25 and I agree that they do make the HD 25 less boomy, and more neutral, to my ears. Also, I wrote above the HD 25 picture in the article that the HD 25 I was testing was fitted with the velour pads.
 
And this story of gold/silver connector, or cable ... I'm skeptical

 
I think what I heard was that the gold-plated connector was a better power conductor and so gave more power/volume to the headphone; due to the differing impedence of the HD 25 and Amperior, I manually altered the amp's volume so that both headphones sounded equal in volume when A/B'ing them, so the different connected may have been less of an issue than I previously thought.
 
Oh and by the way, I wouldn't classify "pat methny" as being new age , but "accoustic guitar".
 
Neither would I, but I was recently surprised to discoer that Pat Metheny has won two Grammy Awards for Best New Age Album, one of which was for the album that contained the track I used in the article. 

 

[extrabigmehdi]

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Neither would I, but I was recently surprised to discoer that Pat Metheny has won two Grammy Awards for Best New Age Album, one of which was for the album that contained the track I used in the article. 

The grammy award doesn't always make relevant choices...

 

[paul02]

I still think price vs performance, DT's and Moda's beat em.
 

 

[dleblanc343]

You can't really judge without even trying/comparing... 

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I still think price vs performance, DT's and Moda's beat em.
 

 

[SONIC BOOM]

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You can't really judge without even trying/comparing... 

+1

 

[paul02]

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You can't really judge without even trying/comparing... 

 
I actually have. I'm doing an internship in Sennheiser so I have Amperiors to compare to my Moda's.

 

[SONIC BOOM]

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I actually have. I'm doing an internship in Sennheiser so I have Amperiors to compare to my Moda's.

really?, wow your lucky I would fall on the floor and have hearts floating out of my head if I could just take a tour of there. I wish I could do something like that when I was in school

only if....

 

[paul02]

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really?, wow your lucky I would fall on the floor and have hearts floating out of my head if I could just take a tour of there. I wish I could do something like that when I was in school

only if....

Thanks! Haha it would be true if I were in your position too!
 
Off-topic : These are a beaut.

 

[SONIC BOOM]

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Thanks! Haha it would be true if I were in your position too!
 
Off-topic : These are a beaut.

your right, too me,my hd800s are like looking at a piece of fine art

, and while your there making me cry in the corner why I never had the opportunity too do something awesome like that tell sennheiser that we want a better pain finish on the hd800s, within a week of owning them I already had 2 scratches on them (1 from taking the cable off and 1 is a mystery) despite them only being on a headphone stand, in the box and on my head they were never dropped, the scratched bothered me soo much I took them apart, filled them in with bondo, and i used my friends air brush set up too paint over them with a exact match too the color of the stock paint if only they came out with all black hd800s with a more robust finish

 

[paul02]

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your right, too me,my hd800s are like looking at a piece of fine art

, and while your there making me cry in the corner why I never had the opportunity too do something awesome like that tell sennheiser that we want a better pain finish on the hd800s, within a week of owning them I already had 2 scratches on them (1 from taking the cable off and 1 is a mystery) despite them only being on a headphone stand, in the box and on my head they were never dropped, the scratched bothered me soo much I took them apart, filled them in with bondo, and i used my friends air brush set up too paint over them with a exact match too the color of the stock paint if only they came out with all black hd800s with a more robust finish

That I think you better take it up with the their Customer Service. I can't do much here.

 

[OK-Guy]

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I still think price vs performance, DT's and Moda's beat em.
 

 
V-Moda M-80's biggest load of crap on the market... up there with Beats

 

[mcee]

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V-Moda M-80's biggest load of crap on the market... up there with Beats

 

 
Personally haven't heard the M-80s so can't compare to the Amperior, but the Amperior does sound better than the HD-25s IMHO.