Seiun player, $150 player with monster spec. Too good to be true?

Mar 14, 2016 at 11:08 AM Post #631 of 1,652
It would be much better if cyberdrive can be honest with the backers and tell them what difficulties they are facing , why they chose to change the specs ,etc. And if possible let the backers choose what they want, for example: whether the backers are willing to fork out $20 more or go with lower specs. 
 
That way the backers will feel more satisfied because they at least had to courtesy to consult the ppl who funded them.
 
just my 2 cents
 
Mar 14, 2016 at 11:37 AM Post #632 of 1,652
I agree wholeheartedly Faelix. I am just about a bit of balance.

Balance that I may get nothing, or worth nothing or steal of a deal.

It would take a full time employee asking questions all day just to answer the daily Emails. A drip feed would make me happy not total withdrawl.

I like to hear the issues as well as successful outcomes.

Cyberdrive have done themselves no favours. Just a "we had a good week or bad week" case suppliers came through..
Issues with the current dac choice"

To be honest I have lost the excitement
I had about the potential of this start up. They have lost some initiative with the backers. Silence is almost as bad as spoonfeeding them bull****.
But until we unwrap a finished article and plug it in we don't know either way.

My SKARP razor was destroyed on Kstarter.They have improved their dialogue with backers a lot but for some a live web cam isn't enough.

I am still looking foward to having a new transport I can afford.
With a gamble I can afford to loose.
Valid concerns were to me turning into an Internet hissyfit.
I'd love to see them succeed and get a better sound for the masses product out there. If it's audiophile introduction quality great.
I just hope it doesn't become ALIEXPRESS fodder..

Keep the good fight and keep smiling.

Mainly ignore my brain fart ramblings.

..

Dave 8^)
 
Mar 14, 2016 at 5:15 PM Post #633 of 1,652
This isn't even late yet! People need to calm down. Cyberdrive hasn't taken a wee in your coffee.
 
I think that this is going to be late, and that is fine. The average crowd-funding is late. I'm not even mad about the communication. They are a small team that has just come into a lot of work.
 
For the guy putting up his 'redacted' email. That email was just a repeat of rants that people have seen here, and some of it was out of date when the campaign was still on.
 
There are issues: communication dropped off (the main product ambassador left the company), they haven't confirmed how the 1.8ohm output impedance will or will not be implemented, and they haven't shown a working prototype.  They switched DAC chips on the PHA but that was probably the right decision. The 9018k2m is easy to implement and many circuit designs are already out there, they can ape to a win. Go find me all the portable DACs that run a 9018, you won't be looking long. That DAC chip is a desktop DAC chip, and likely much more difficult to implement than the mobile designed 9018k2m. Cyberdrive probably just prevented a year of delays on the PHA, so calm down.
 
At the price I paid, I still feel like I'm going to get a good product. I went for love-birds on the Pro X with 128GB storage on each. I fully expect to throw a 200GB card in the one that is for me and have access to a big ol' Tidal library. All that together was $260 if I'm remembering right. That is less than one player with no built in storage. For people saying this will be a cell-phone without a radio, has anyone seen the price of cell-phones with 128gb built in? It isn't what I paid.
 
And for those bringing up the LH Labs Geek WAVE, it looks like backers patience is going to be rewarded. They've added mSATA allowing storage for cheap up to 1TB, it has USB-C and it has two SD slots (might be microSD, but lots of storage either way). I know plenty of people who would walk around with 2TB of hi-res. I'm now wishing a little bit that I'd got in for the $500 dollar balanced base model.
 
I've got a book project that just hit 3 years since funding, it will likely be another six months minimum. Things can take a while. Patience is the name of the game in crowd-funding. I don't want to hear any more whining on a not late and probably will barely be late project.
 
Mar 14, 2016 at 9:25 PM Post #635 of 1,652
One of our fellow investors (worldofda) has noted in the comments section of the Seiun IGG page that Seiun has a  "spot" marked for 3-15-16 in the "story section", presumably to show us some new pictures or videos of the Pro players... I've looked myself and the 3/15/16 space is there...  So, tomorrow, we may get some interesting news and/or views. 
 
Mar 15, 2016 at 11:25 AM Post #638 of 1,652
For those who haven't seen it (from the IDGG site):

"Great News on 03-15 -2016

We are pleased to share with all backers , the new progress on our HOT topic --- SEIUN Pro X

Here is the first demo video of our Seiun Pro X Player !

Coming soon .................."
 
Mar 15, 2016 at 9:37 PM Post #640 of 1,652
For those who haven't seen it (from the IDGG site):

"Great News on 03-15 -2016

We are pleased to share with all backers , the new progress on our HOT topic --- SEIUN Pro X

Here is the first demo video of our Seiun Pro X Player !

Coming soon .................."


So....another mirage? Don't see any video on the Indiegogo site. These guys are getting more like snake oil salesmen every day.
 
Mar 16, 2016 at 2:17 PM Post #644 of 1,652
 
So....another mirage? Don't see any video on the Indiegogo site. These guys are getting more like snake oil salesmen every day.


Please, it says "coming soon".
And I find it really funny to talk about "snake oil" for a "cheap" product who hasn't been released when A&K sells purely subjective SQ for several thousand dollars and grossly overpriced accessories for their DAPs without any technical evidence that they're performing better than 200-10000$ DAPs.
 
Seriously, you'll be able to complain all you want once the product is available for testing and review.
I wish people would learn about patience when it comes to crowdfunding, and would realize that not every development project is running like a calm river, changes happen all the time.
 
Of course there could be better communication, but at least people have a chance to back off and get a refund if they're not happy, it doesn't happen very often in the crowdfunding world.
 

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