[s1rrah]

  Why would you swap it? White dampers, in theory should be same. No reason to risk taking them out, if you are only going to replace them with the same filters. At least they should have same acoustic resistance, so they should sound the same...

 
Though the same regarding general frequency response ... I still thought the Knowles dampers had greater clarity and detail .. with the stock Shure filters sounding veiled in comparison. I wrote a fairly lengthy post about this a good while back and in this thread where I discussed this. I found it quite noticeable and in the end, considered the Knowles dampers to provide a more resolved overall sound...

 

[kimvictor]

   
Though the same regarding general frequency response ... I still thought the Knowles dampers had greater clarity and detail .. with the stock Shure filters sounding veiled in comparison. I wrote a fairly lengthy post about this a good while back and in this thread where I discussed this. I found it quite noticeable and in the end, considered the Knowles dampers to provide a more resolved overall sound...

Huh. That's interesting. Any info on the resistance of the dampers you got?

 

[s1rrah]

  Huh. That's interesting. Any info on the resistance of the dampers you got?

 
I really couldn't say ... they re just the typical Knowles white dampers (part number 721-BF-1859-000), at this page (though the image there is obviously not the damper they shipped me.
 
The product data sheet says "1khz sensitivity = 680" ... 
 
Further, there is an obvious difference in the construction materials when comparing the stock Shure filters and these dampers. The Shure filters seem more like a plastic/fibrous mesh of sorts whereas the Knowles are obviously a metal tube of sorts with (metal) a perforated screen...
 
Regardless, I notice a quite pronounced difference between the two white variants ... the freqs seem the same but the Knowles seem more detailed and less congested/muddy sounding...
 
Best...

 

[kimvictor]

   
I really couldn't say ... they re just the typical Knowles white dampers (part number 721-BF-1859-000), at this page (though the image there is obviously not the damper they shipped me.
 
The product data sheet says "1khz sensitivity = 680" ... 
 
Further, there is an obvious difference in the construction materials when comparing the stock Shure filters and these dampers. The Shure filters seem more like a plastic/fibrous mesh of sorts whereas the Knowles are obviously a metal tube of sorts with (metal) a perforated screen...
 
Regardless, I notice a quite pronounced difference between the two white variants ... the freqs seem the same but the Knowles seem more detailed and less congested/muddy sounding...
 
Best...

Huh. If that's so, I say give it a shot. It's not that hard to pull out the filter, so it would be worth it.

 

[squallkiercosa]

Hey everyone, Is it possible to remove the filters without the tool? 

 

[Marco Angel]

try a needle, just make pressure to one side of the filter and push it out side, be carefull not to damage the filter or loose it

 

[Bostonears]

I used one side of a narrow tweezer, and the filters slid right out.

 

[kimvictor]

  Hey everyone, Is it possible to remove the filters without the tool? 

I used the wax loop shure gave me to remove the filters.

 

[squallkiercosa]

  I used the wax loop shure gave me to remove the filters.

I ended up buying the etymotic filter removal tool from ebay (5$ shipped but I guess it was the last one)
Every time I travel to the States I tend to buy those small things that I would never buy in Canada like connectors, adapters, soldering tools and this time, the shure filters. We'll see the differences soon. 

 

[dc-k]

  I ended up buying the etymotic filter removal tool from ebay (5$ shipped but I guess it was the last one)
Every time I travel to the States I tend to buy those small things that I would never buy in Canada like connectors, adapters, soldering tools and this time, the shure filters. We'll see the differences soon. 

UK people can get the tool here

 

[Mooses9]

Huh? They're around $1.50... 250?!?!

i meant the se535's i got a few for $250.00 but didnt think they were worth the msrp

 

[dc-k]

Browns in place and Meatloaf belting out, bass great but I think the brass and strings are a little too muted for my taste, next stop greys...

 

[kimvictor]

  Browns in place and Meatloaf belting out, bass great but I think the brass and strings are a little too muted for my taste, next stop greys...

Orange is a great one(my personal rec)

 

[dc-k]

  Orange is a great one(my personal rec)

It really is remarkable what a difference it makes, really love the grey, will try the orange this afternoon

 

[dc-k]

  Orange is a great one(my personal rec)

I've listened to a range of music on the original filters (died on removal so not retried...), brown grey and orange and have concluded the following:
 

• the Knowles are a lot better made and more robust than the original Shure.
• Removing and replacing gets easier with practice. Although I wouldn't recommend changing them between tracks in a moving vehicle, I could certainly see myself changing from time to time for different types of day (active listening to particular music v. background noise obstruction whilst reading or study, for example).
• I never get bored of "Paradise by the Dashboard Light"
• My two favourites so far are grey for active listening (really love the detail and aggressive brass/strings feel) and orange/brown (for comforting listening, nice bass but without the attention grabbing detail).

 
I think I need to keep trying different music (the acoustic version of "creep" is excellent with the greys)